Re: The Tesla Diesel Is Announced

Oct 06, 2023 Last reply: 3 years ago 7 Replies

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Liz Tuddenham 3 years ago

> > There are plenty of rich morons in SF, but they got different taste. >

> The problem with ALL EV sales is there is the "bottom end" of the (USED)
> market isn't low enough for the sorts of people who scrape together
> a few bucks -- and repair favors from friends -- to get a working vehicle. >
> I see lots of $500 pickups around town with folks trying to eek
> out a living -- landscaping, cleaning swimming pools, painting
> roofs, etc. -- that would never be able to afford a "heavily used"
> (i.e., available for low dollars) EV (what's a functional but largely
> depleted battery+vehicle worth?)

In the UK they have found a way of putting those people out of business. They have introduced "Clean Air Zones" in several cities, which impose swingeing charges on the most efficient vehicles (older diesels that have paid off their construction costs and are still good for many thousands of miles) and make a lot of heavy commercials do multi-mile detours through minor roads. This is all done in the name of 'Protecting the Environment'.

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Don Y 3 years ago

The opposite is the case, here. Newer cars are held to higher emissions standards than older vehicles. And, older vehicles are taxed (annual "registration" fee) considerably less than newer ones. I.e., vanity ("I want to own pretty things!") has an associated cost.

Telling an already underprivileged class of people that they have been further excluded from the benefits of society is likely a losing proposition -- one that a populist could easily exploit!

("Well, you could take the bus!" "And, how do I carry the equipment I use for landscaping, pool cleaning, etc. ON the bus? Will it drop me off AT the address that I need -- or will I be lugging that equipment, on foot, to the site?")

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Liz Tuddenham 3 years ago

When they extended the CAZ in London recently, 300 CCTV cameras were vandalised. I wish I knew who did it, as I would like to send them a donation.

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John Larkin 3 years ago

California is planning to require all trucks to be electric. That will get interesting. A big loaded diesel truck can barely make it up the grade to the Sierra crest. An electric, carrying tons of batteries, in a snowstorm...

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Don Y 3 years ago

The cameras are an enforcement mechanism? Are "permitted vehicles" tagged, in some (visible) way? Or, is it just the physical size of the vehicle that is the indicator?

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Liz Tuddenham 3 years ago

They have access to data linked to your number place [licence plate].

They recently tried to prosecute a motorist for driving in a bus lane. It turned out that he had never visited the area but the photograph they sent him as 'proof' showed a woman walking along the footpath with a logo on her T-shirt that the camera had mistakenly recognised as a car number plate.

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Don Y 3 years ago

So, one can't just "recognize" if a particular vehicle is out-of-place or not?

Too funny! You'd think they could at least verify they were looking at a VEHICLE before trying to identify a plate!

Perhaps it might be amusing to start selling (gifting?) T-shirts with images of license plates, front and rear?? Like the plates of your favorite MPs? (Or, the neighbor that you strongly dislike!)

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