Re: OT: Layoff Letter

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broader measure of socioeconomic status. In too many cases there is no clear cause and effect relation between income and health. The strongest influence on life expectancy is education level.

Where did you get that idea? Google for "living will" and "health care proxy".

Cheers

Phil Hobbs

An extraordinarily succinct and concise summation.

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Not exactly true, they would never be allowed run in the first place. = And would be assassinated if they somehow ran by themselves and won.

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Not at all. You are telling Mr. Barr that he must give up half of what little he gets (1.5 %) on the sales of his franchises.

Oh really? Can you take a million dollars a month?

And what part of perverse incentives do you not understand?

And yet just a little bit above you said that the owner could take any amount wanted. Which is it?

You need to work very hard on being logically consistent, as you are = doing rather poorly, contradicting your self repeatedly in your post.

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Not exactly euthenasia. You may be able to persuade the medical profession to avoid heroic efforts to keep you alive, but you've got to hang around until you die from whatever it is that is making a mess of your body.

My cancer specialist friend talks about "adequate pain control" which is enough morphine to stop you breathing, but that isn't covered by "living wills" or "health care proxies" - it's completely in the hands of the health care professionals.

The Dutch are more sensible about this, as they are about many things.

-- Bill Sloman, Nijmegen

A.) It depends on the size of the building, one dwelling or two maybe = you do it, maybe you just hire someone to deal with the current emergency. = Ten or more dwellings (may well be one building up to hundreds of units), you hire someone (a property manager) to hire someone for the various emergencies. =20

B.) Commercial property is different and on site building managers is = the norm. Complete with custodial care being done by a building manager contracted company. The building manager is responsible for an approved (mostly by local agencies, often local Fire Marshal) emergency plan.

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I knew a guy 87 who recently died of Emphysema. They gave him a year to live when he started using oxygen bottles, and he lasted 7 months. He was happy person who never complained or worried. He was always joking and frequently offered me a cigarette. His wife gave me his last 2 packs of smokes, and I keep the boxes to remember him.

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Crikey, and everybody complains about how litigious 'murcans are. Sounds like the primary national pastime there.

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Not particularly - they only sue over *real* injuries as opposed to coffee being too hot or being frightened by seeing the word "asbestos".

Napoleonic code is rather different to UK and US law so as an expat you have to be aware of the most important differences.

I have no sympathy for McDonald's in that particular case.

If you Google for what injuries the poor woman suffered from the nearly-boiling McDonald's coffee, you'd be a bit more sympathetic. Hint: it landed directly in her lap. Third degree burns to the pink bits, covering a wide area. She was over 80, and never really recovered. (See e.g.

McD's had had over 700 reports of burns from their coffee (served in large foam cups that become very unstable when they're that hot), and had settled many of them for real money. And their corporate standard temperature coffee was a good 20 degrees hotter than other places'.

The award was just under $3M, which seems pretty reasonable for a pattern of gross negligence like that. US tort law is a mess, but that case came out about right.

Cheers

Phil Hobbs

Yet another summary by a doctor running for office: "Obamacare Summed Up in One Sentence"

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Completely agree with you. I also spent time studying the details laid out by both sides, years back, because this keeps on coming back. Despite everyone's knee jerk reaction when ignorant about what actually took place, this one actually was case that should be used to show when the courts get things right, not wrong.

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It sounds like she knows exactly what she's talking about.

Come on, Phil. The US never does anything right, in his America hating eyes.

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ust be predicated on being a member of the sedentary population. You obviou= sly never lived in the country or the mountains. There are plenty of men wh= o live to nearly 100 and spent a lifetime doing menial low paying labor, bu= t they were well nourished and lived free of the toxins of industrialized s= ociety. Heck, some of them are still procreating at 85, and many don't even= begin regular doctor visits until their mid-70s. And these people were far= from living the health nut lifestyle, smoking and drinking, eating lots of= red fat marbled meat, butter, cream, sugar, etc.

In my neck of the woods, we've got an 80-something city-worker gentleman mowing and tending the medians, and another the same for local businesses. They're sharp, stand straight, and shoot straight too.

What I got from Jon's post is that longevity is strongly, inversely correlated with income tax. :-)

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If you're terminal, suffering, and want to die, doctors and nurses will quietly help you.

I'm not naming names, but it's common.

It was the families of charity cases that a former g.f. saw in her ICU that routinely insisted that no expense be spared, most especially in hopeless cases. And, they were most likely to sue, making everyone skittish, and practice medicine defensively, lest they get sued.

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But not common enough. And the fact that it is as common as it is let Harold Shipman kill some 250 of his patients before anybody noticed.

And she's a former girl friend because she got tired of you reinterpreting what she said in a way that conformed with your right- wing political delusions?

Charity cases are most often charity cases because they aren't all that clever and never got to be particularly well-educated. They can take a while to understand what "brain-dead" means.

My mother's cousin Dora had a massive stroke more than a decade ago, and was initially kept alive by a mechanical ventilator while the doctors checked out the state of her brain stem. When they'd worked out that she was brain dead, they wanted to turn off the ventilator. Her kids understood the situation and appreciated that it wouldn't make any practical difference to Dora's state, but her Romanian second husband (and the father of her kids) who had been brought up in rural Romania during WW2, couldn't really appreciate that there was absolutely no chance that she could ever breath for herself again, let alone wake up. It took a while for the rest of the family to get him past his grief and shock to a correct comprehension of the real situation, so that he could give permission to turn the machine off.

I wasn't in Australia at the time, but my parents got peripherally involved, and talked about the experience the next time I was out there. They liked the husband, and had understood his dilemma.

-- Bill Sloman, Nijmegen

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must be predicated on being a member of the sedentary population. You obvi= ously never lived in the country or the mountains. There are plenty of men = who live to nearly 100 and spent a lifetime doing menial low paying labour,= but they were well nourished and lived free of the toxins of industrialize= d society. Heck, some of them are still procreating at 85, and many don't e= ven begin regular doctor visits until their mid-70s. And these people were = far from living the health nut lifestyle, smoking and drinking, eating lots= of red fat marbled meat, butter, cream, sugar, etc.

You would. However, correlation is not causation.

My suggestion that tm should move to Monaco was not seriously intended. Monaco may not charge income tax, but it isn't a cheap place to live. " Monaco has high social insurance taxes payable by both employer and employee. The employer's contribution is between 28%=9640% (averaging 35%) of gross salary including benefits and the employee pays a further 10%=9614% (averaging 13%).[122]"

You wouldn't like that.

-- Bill Sloman, Nijmegen

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So how come the UK National Health Service, which is wholly government run, delivers better health care - averaged over the entire UK population - than the US system at about half the price per head.

The Dutch, German and French health services give everybody essentially the same level of health care as enjoyed by fully insured US citizens at two thirds of the price per head. There the people selling the health insurance aren't part of the government, but what they offer is tightly regulated by the governments involved, rather than the invisible hand of the market.

The free market is an excellent way of distributing resources for a lot of activities, but health care doesn't seem to be one of them, any more than defence or law enforcement.

-- Bill Sloman, Nijmegen