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Relates to classic errors: e.g. engineers that don't have to *support* their designs after they go out the door ("Not my department any more") and vendors that don't actually USE their own product (at a minimum, having a force of external[1] "Beta testers").

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. . Remember when "beta" meant "it doesn't leave the company" and could be distinguished from "Alpha" and "RC"? 8-|

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JeffM
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That's your choice, of course (assuming you were a 'boss'), but paying for more than what's needed isn't fiscally sound practice.

And that costs money with the temporarily 'missing man', rehire, and assimilation process.

Nice thought but using that logic one should hire PHDs to sweep the floors because they might "conjure up even better solutions" to floor sweeping.

Now you've changed the topic. Not to mention I disagree that's the 'typical choice'.

I don't know where you work but I've never seen any 'management' that thought a gaggle of "aren't quite qualified" solved anything. And that includes management I felt "aren't quite qualified" (but then, I didn't hire them).

Not enough time to go into that shotgun pattern but, in general, your assessment of the decision process and 'reasons' indicates you've not been involved in them.

Btw, the bigger problem in keeping 'good guys' isn't so much they have to 'work with' not quite as brilliant engineers, it's having them in unchallenging positions (like hiring a $70K engineer to do a $50K engineering job) lack of recognition (how do I get 'recognized' doing 'this crap'?), and low upward mobility.

Oh, I can, because I've seen it.

That's an integration and regression testing process problem, btw.

If that's true then they don't know who to pay $70k to either and just paying more doesn't make one 'better'.

No it isn't " the same argument" nor is it even remotely similar. I didn't say a blessed thing about hiring 'incompetents' nor 'make job' hiring. I'm talking about pay commensurate with skill level and hiring people with the skills appropriate to the job, acknowledging that not every job needs a PHD.

Doesn't matter if your 'retrained' workers makes it to $50K level engineering, you aren't going to hire them.

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flipper

I imagine he's sure because, like me, he's been through similar nonsense once already in the 1970s.

He'd be sorely mistaken to think so because the one thing Democrats are pass masters at is pointing fingers at everyone else.

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flipper

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