My house didn't have a door bell when I moved in, and people just knocked. That seemed OK, until recently when I had repeated failed delivery attempts. After I'd installed a surveillance camera, it showed that, rather to my surprise, on the most recent failure, the guy had actually come to the door. Presumably, he knocked, but not loud enough.
So I installed a door bell. Tested it. It worked fine.
Then the very first time a delivery guy used it, it jammed in the on position. Apparently, the bell push wasn't designed with delivery drivers in mind.
Why is this so hard?
Sylvia.
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Computer Nerd Kev
Yeah, I had two packages sent via DHL on the 23rd, one from the USA and the other from Singapore. They both arrived in Melbourne within the week, the Singapore one a day or two earlier as you'd expect. On Monday I picked up the USA one at the post office, still waiting on the Singapore one. You can't apply logic to these things.
But DHL use Aus Post for the delivery within Australia, the courier services used by RS and e14 don't (for me).
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Sylvia Else
On the other hand, Toll delivered something to me (from Element14) on Monday, but the tracking still shows it in transit.
Sylvia.
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Trevor Wilson
**I'm curious Sylvia. You've stated that you have two problems:
Delivery guys don't push the doorbell button.
When they do press the doorbell button, it sticks.
You're solution is to buy a waterproof, industrial quality push button.
However, that only solves one of the problems.
I provided a perfectly suitable solution to BOTH problems. It provides additional features that you may or may not find useful.
Why is it not under consideration?
Curious minds want to know.
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Trevor Wilson
**Duh. Smacks head. Should read: "Your solution.."
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Sylvia Else
The not using the doorbell has been addressed by fitting a notice to the door telling them to use the doorbell.
The WiFi solution is expensive, probably impossible to repair when it breaks, and my microwave oven is powerful enough to disrupt Wifi when in use.
I have no use for the video capabilities, since I have a video solution in place.
I already have the chime, the bell transformer and the wiring for it. All I need is a push-button that will last.
Sylvia.
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Phil Allison
Sylvia Else wrote: ================
** IME
Micro-switch based push buttons are tops. Used for launching wing mounted, heat seeking missiles and nuke weapons.
Door bells are a doddle.
..... Phil
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noel
not quite, they are delaying their vans picking up parcels from online retailers in syd/melb only, until they clear a massive backlog. In Brisbane, I just got a parcel from WA in 3 days, so no go slow there :)
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Phil Allison
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** ROTFL !
I have a wireless doorbell with the push-button on the door flame. Nevertheless, most knock on the door instead. I guess they just don't see it.
BTW
there have been four occasions where a recording camera covering my door at a previous address would have been invaluable. On one such it would have avoided my being falsely charged with a crime. Recommended.
...... Phil
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Trevor Wilson
**SNAP! Same here. I wouldn't "most", but I reckon 50% still knock on the door, despite the faux antique finish Ring doorbell button, which has this neat illuminated ring around the button. It is impossible to miss. Yet they still knock.
**OUCH! I am chuffed with the Ring doorbell. Before I purchased it, I consulted a guy who spends his working days installing professional video intercoms (stuff that costs between $2k ~ $10k+). He told me that he had installed a few Ring devices and found them to work flawlessly.
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Sylvia Else
I might have to design a knock detector. Obvious issues are responding to other noises, and in particular responding to the door being opened and closed.
Hmmm....
Sylvia.
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Trevor Wilson
**You could do that.
OR, you could install a Ring system, which will detect a caller long before they knock on the door and alert you.
Just a thought.
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Phil Allison
Sylvia Else wrote: ================
** A crazy situation exists for many people living in strata blocks: Most such blocks have an external door bell and intercom system. Inside each unit is a pretty loud sounder that residents soon get to accustomed treating as their door alarm. Unique sound, nothing else like it, audible in each room. Hearing it will get you out of bed in the morning, to see who the heck it is.
But one or two mornings each year, the "fire safety inspector" arrives. They do not use the external bell system at all, cos they have a key to the main doors of the building. Instead they tap, tap on each door. Maybe at 7am.
This does not wake anyone or even remind them of anyone being at the door - since that is not the right trigger sound. In unit blocks, one hears random tapping noises all the time and learns to ignore them. So your unit gets missed by the inspector and you cop a letter from strata with a nasty threat of a $2000 or more fine.
To avoid such NON EXISTENT fine you are to arrange a call back and pay a cash fee of $150 or more.
This nonsense is entirely as intended by the inspection company. Backed up by assholes in strata management.
Been going on for almost 20 years so far.
..... Phil
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Daniel65
Ah, O.K., thanks for clearing that up. ;-P
Daniel
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Daniel65
Does Sylvia have a fly-wire door?? Fit a normally open switch which closes as soon as the fly-wire door is opened and rings the bell! Job done. ;-)
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Daniel65
Why would anyone use the door bell system installed if the door is being burned ('flame') all the time?? ;-P
Daniel
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Phil Allison
Daniel65 puked
** Wot a very interesting question -
from a lying troll, dope that wouldn't know if its stinking arse were on fire.
...... Phil
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Jasen Betts
You can buy knock sensors, they might work on doors :) or build something, eg: a normally closed leaf switch with one leaf soldered to nail in the door and the other soldered to a weight
Door slamming could be perhaps cured by a reed switch with a timeout
Perhaps a fast reed switch and a slow one in series, (a slow reed switch is a regular reed switch inside a copper block)
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Rod Speed
Sylvia Else wrote
Wouldn?t be hard to include a door opening and closing sensor and have the system include that in the knock detector.
Stop humming, it keeps us awake...
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Trevor Wilson
**Typo. After all, the 'L' and the 'F' keys are close together.
Oh, wait a sec.... Looks at keyboard.
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