>> >>> Sorry for all the cross posting but I'm interesting in getting a serious
>>> discussion about how usenet has become lately.
>>
>> Usenet is usenet. What you want is a discussion forum. There are
>> plenty
>> of implementations available freely that you may modify to suit your
>> needs.
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I'm trying to see if the community is interested in moving into something
>better.
That's what a lot of kooks and spammers and trolls say to justify spamming cross-posts, so I think your argument is a bit weak here.
Much of the community has and does "move on to something better" in the form of discussions forums and other internet resources. I think trying to "reform" usenet is a bit futile and will wind up breaking the few things that it has going for it (e.g., unmoderated groups that don't "belong" to anyone).
> Please, don't cross-post to unrelated newsgroups and understand that
>> you are currently part of this "spam" category. Time to use this
>> "spam-repellent" on yourself.
I agree. I almost hate to respond to this and contribute to the problem, but there's so much of this OT cross-posting lately that it's hard to not try to get some feedback in the system.
Hmm... But yet its ok for you to do it? I knew someone would say such a
>thing but I guess you rather me post individually to each group?
How about finding a relevant administrative group in which you might find the people most able and qualified to do something, get consensus there, and then if/when that's done take it to other groups. Then you'd have the benefit of being able to cite the support of some credible people who may be able to effect change at the levels that it would need to happen, and your story to the masses would have some weight. Right now you're no different than the trolls/kooks/spammers that you're opposing and you're doing so without any sort of tangible proposal or means to execute it. You're the equivalent of a guy waving his shirt on a corner calling for the overthrow of the government in order to make laws against people waving their shirt on a corner, IMHO.
Fortunately there is a difference between what I posted and spam. I do not
>in general post to multiple groups and I am not posting an irrelevant
>message or trying to sell a product or waste peoples time. What I am asking
>is relevant to all those that use usenet. It is a serious question please
>respond with a serious answer.
Seriously, take it to groups where this is on-topic first. Stop creating a problem in groups that are already having problems with crap like this. If you want groups to be able to stay on-topic, taking them off topic isn't a good way to impress people with your cause.
And hell, if you hate cross posting then please don't do it yourself.... it
>makes you look like a hypocrit.
My newsreader only allows four groups to be addressed at once in order to minimize useless cross-posting (like this), so I had to cut one out. If it's the one you're reading, then I'm essentially writing to the wind. With many newsreaders, the only way to know for sure your response is read in the originating newsgroup is to reply to all cross-posted groups. So I don't think it's hypocritical to respond, but it's certainly problematic when somebody starts a widely cross-posted thread that is OT to many of the groups.
Eric Jacobsen Minister of Algorithms Abineau Communications