Re: Mass Starvation Looming On The Horizon

Aug 03, 2022 Last reply: 4 years ago 9 Replies
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On a sunny day (Tue, 2 Aug 2022 18:17:04 -0700 (PDT)) it happened Anthony


> William Sloman snipped-for-privacy@ieee.org wrote in
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>> >>> On a sunny day (Tue, 2 Aug 2022 07:38:18 -0700 (PDT)) it happened Fred Bloggs
>> snipped-for-privacy@gmail.com wrote in snipped-for-privacy@googlegroups.com: >>>
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>>>>> Climate change is greening the planet and increasing crop yields. >>>>
>>>> That's an insane misunderstanding of reality. You're knowledge of the situation
>> is what's called woefully wrong and inadequate. You need to make an >> appointment
>> with your GP and tell him/her your prescription drug regimen is making you insane.
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>> There is a lot of green people into destroying earth.
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>> There aren't.
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>>> Over here in the Netherlands the farmers are revolting, blocking highways
>>> and roads so supermarkets cannot be supplied and shelves are empty..
>>> The EU green political fanatics reason that cows produce CO2 or something
>> like that and want to kill them all it seems.
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>> The problem is that the Netherlands raise lots of cows and pigs in very confined
>> areas, and al those cows and pigs piss out urea, which contaminates the
>> soil and the ground-water in the area
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> Technology, you can feed that PISS into the same sewage system that is used for us humans
> There are a LOT more humans here though so it would be hardly noticed.
> Greens are anti-technology because they have no clue
> Just like you and your >>> quoting!!!
>

Ever try to housebreak a cow? Parenthetically one of the loudest voices against storing nuclear waste in Nevada was a dairy farmer who had been cited several times for polluting the ground water with his dairy operation.

There are close to 4M cattle in the Netherlands, over 11M pigs and

100M poultry. Those numbers are not negligible!

Jeroen Belleman

On a sunny day (Wed, 3 Aug 2022 08:27:48 -0600) it happened rbowman snipped-for-privacy@montana.com wrote in snipped-for-privacy@mid.individual.net>:

Yea pollution like caused by fracking is much worse, there are several examples and have been several lawsuits against industry killing people by dumping stuff You won't die from cow s*it, good fertilizer,

Then they might as well shoot all dogs... more dogs than cattle in the cities and those leave their mark everywhere. Man! and just this week horse s*it on the roads here, those recreational horse riders do not clean up their s*it either.

On a sunny day (Wed, 03 Aug 2022 16:54:25 +0200) it happened Jeroen Belleman snipped-for-privacy@nospam.please wrote in <tce26v$1o3k$ snipped-for-privacy@gioia.aioe.org>:

Do those 11M include politicians?

Not so much. Fracking is just water and soap ( surfactants ). The (surface) property owners watch the operators like a hawk. You break it, you pay for it. The wrong sorta spill is an EPA event. And you'd better self-report it.

They do go through a whacking great deal of diesel. So that part's quite real.

Drilling mud is the real nasty stuff. It's also generally proprietary.

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I was always told horse poop is fairly non-toxic but that's gotta be annoying. :)

It's part of the scenery on the trails around here. It's better than little plastic bags of dog crap. The dog owners have the 'bag it' part down but struggle with 'and take it with you.'

Bit of trivia: butterflies love nice fresh piles of horse manure.They also love rotting fish. Being pretty has advantages.

On a sunny day (Sun, 14 Aug 2022 00:11:19 -0600) it happened rbowman snipped-for-privacy@montana.com wrote in snipped-for-privacy@mid.individual.net>:

There are some nice flowers in my garden. The cats from nextdoors chase butterflies by jumping high to the flowers where those sit sucking honey and then eat the butterflies! Sometimes they take the whole branch of flowers to the ground with it, I just let it be, its nature :-)

Bit of a heatwave here now, 29 C in the shadow, 31.4 C indoors last night I like it :-)

A cat that was hanging around delighted in chasing and eating butterflies, grasshoppers, and other insects. One day he caught a yellowjacket,Dolichovespula arenaria, a particularly aggressive wasp. His species identification got a lot better after that episode.

I don't have AC so the highest indoor temperature I've seen this summer was a little over 37 C (99 F). The forecast for today is 32.7 back up to 37.2 on Wednesday, with all days above 33 for the week.

I don't mind it but I went to an Irish festival in Butte yesterday and walked up to a mine disaster memorial when the dancers were performing. Butte is an old mining town where some of the city streets are steeper than many hiking trails so it was a bit of a workout in the heat. I doubt the dancers were having a good time either.

Ouch! That would be intolerable, here -- esp during Monsoon. Summer would be tolerable as you could resort to evaporative cooling but monsoon leaves you with fans and bodies that can't shed heat very quickly into humid air!

We lost a large (30yo) ocotillo in the most recent storm. No easy way to rid yourself of it other than cutting one branch at a time with gloved hands! The work wasn't particularly strenuous (though having to bend and CAREFULLY pick each branch off the ground, individually, and CAREFULLY carry it to a bundle-in-progress got tiring). And, 100F isn't too terrible for outdoor work.

But, returning indoors, the sweat would flow like someone had turned on a spigot! As if the body suddenly realized it could benefit from evaporation (cooler, drier inside air).

That done, I now have to turn my attention to deepening the water catchment in the back yard. Won't be able to do that once Monsoon is over (and the ground turns back to concrete!).

Again, the work isn't too demanding. But, hauling the removed soil out to the front yard is problematic as there is no path for a Bobcat or even a wheelbarrow between the two (and driving through the house will raise eyebrows!)

[Solution: dig a big HOLE and put the dirt in the hole!!! :-/ ]

Could be a teddybear cholla... I'd love to see a packrat in the act of decorating his nest with cholla joints. One of the first things I learned while riding a mountain bike in the desert was what species you never wanted to crash into and ocotillo is on the list. It is pretty after it rains though.

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