Re: Getting electrocuted in bathtub

Diesel wrote in news:XnsAB03AFAB3FCBAHT1 @SB7B2EdC4.9ma4.rx:

Oh and you are so clever and cultured.

HOAD, little boy. Go play with a live pole pig wired backwards to your Dryer outlet. Taste the 'current' with your tongue.

Diesel wrote in news:XnsAB03AFAB3FCBAHT1 @SB7B2EdC4.9ma4.rx:

I gotta listen to this stupid shit from an indiana hoosier farm boy retard with an engine fuel as his chosen name?

I was in a lab and we did arc experiments up to 50kV, and you are pretty much full of shit.

You should re-read your first post, because since you have tried moving the goal posts, I doubt you even still have a handle on what your original flawed argument was.

Yes, I do.

Oh, the basic physics you mentioned? :)

I'm not the one who ignorantly claimed 77kv was needed for a one inch open air jump and has been having to backtrack ever since...

So you explain how you knew nothing about the Villard doubler circuit, how exactly?

Enough to know a Villard doubler circuit when I see one. :)

I'm hurt, no really. Future Darwin award winner.

I've never set foot in indiana, wasn't raised on a farm either. Oh, the farm comment.. did you figure out what I meant by not letting you wire a light fixture for a dog house now?

In case you still don't have a clue...

LEDs aren't so good with providing a bit of heat to keep things above freezing, but a 60watt incandescent does a good job of that. You make sure the fixture has a break proof 'enclosure' and it'll keep the doghouse a suitable temp for the outside critter in the wintertime in the climates that aren't forgiving.

So no, I wouldn't provide DC power to run an LED in the dog house. It wouldn't do the dog any good.

Must have been a tiny ass arc, eh? going by your claim that 77kv is needed to jump an inch of open air. /sarcasm.

Diesel wrote in news: snipped-for-privacy@hT41KfD4S.AXvkLJvJmN3J574s978y2CV9TWfjub5k8 tZfIBcnITL5:

YOU ARE INCORRECT, AND YOU LOSE!

Diesel wrote in news:XnsAB03CB7D56D68HT1 @hT41KfD4S.AX7vkLJvJmN3J574s978y2CV9TWfjub5k8tZfIBcnITL5:

Again, IDIOT. ONCE an arc has been initiated, the nodes it is between can be moved apart a great deal before the arc stops.

You are beyond childish thinking that initiation can occur at those distances.

Diesel wrote in news:XnsAB03CB7E6CD1EHT1 @hT41KfD4S.AX7vkLJvJmN3J574s978y2CV9TWfjub5k8tZfIBcnITL5:

Obviously not since they are not used in the industry.

So that makes you a liar, Trumpanzee retard boy.

You are just as stupid as the dopes that write "lol" and call people "douche". You one of those sports bar retards?

I am as smart as a tardigrade. They have ben around for over 400 million years. Pretty damned smart.

You fall in more at the slug level, or paramecium.

Well, as I wrote previously, one of us certainly is...

Your claim of requiring 77kv to jump an inch open air gap isn't accurate. Sorry, but, it's not.

I really don't care what you think of me. :) I'm not here for a popularity contest.

Funny, the first video I provided you, that you didn't check out at the time is showing an arc being initiated over an inch of open air; nowhere near 77kv as you claimed. Initially spread far enough apart to intentionally prevent it from sustaining a solid mostly purple line of electricity (hehehe) at the frequency and duty cycles I used in the video on a crippled power source to further limit the resulting arc (easily four amps under what the coil would prefer) and it's still initiating an arc over an inch long. A hot arc, at that.

At about 2:12 into the video, I moved the arc points a little closer; it's still over an inch. It's now sustaining the arc so I can show you what changes to the frequency and some to the duty cycle do as a result. See the whiskers forming and leaving? One arc becomes many and nearly one again, all over frequency and duty cycle changes.

So, enough with your bullshit. The statement you wrote that I took issue with is your claim of needing 77kv to jump an inch of open air. Your statement is not true. It doesn't take that much voltage to do it. EoD.

Heh, I did say it was a crude circuit...It works well enough for the intended purpose. I'm sure many people who eat microwaved food would agree. Er, that is, people who like microwaved food in the first place. Personally, I'm not what you'd call a fan.

You must have a unique definition for HV realm. As the one i'm familiar with uses flybacks, ignition coils, mots, pole pigs (if you're fortunate enough to be able to legally obtain one that's still operational), and C-Ws. Several ways in which to get HV for a variety of uses. There's nothing wrong with using both for some situations, either. CRT televisions did, Some POS tasers do as well. Just two examples you should be familiar with, maybe the 2nd not first hand, but you should? understand how they work.

I'm glad you've taken the time to educate yourself some about how a microwave works. Really, I am. But, you don't need to share what you've just learned about them with me. I already know this stuff. I'm not the one who confused the circuit for something else, entirely. That was you and another poster. :)

Nothing was/is wrong with what I wrote. I thought this Decadent fellow might be a f****it troll I remembered from another newsgroup. After reading more posts that didn't get xposted to home.repair, I've confirmed it. Sorry I wasted everyones time with so many replies to the ignorant twit.

You seem to be new to SED, it is no point debating with AlwaysWrong..

Instead, please give some info about distance, air pressure, humidity, contamination and various discharge modes before a full arc.

The other question is what voltage at what distance is required to maintain a full arc discharge in AC vs. DC. For DC, about 50-55 Vdc is required to _maintain_ an arc millimeters long as seen in old arc street lamps in the 1880's (30 lamps in series from a 1500 Vdc generator with 6 A loop current).

Diesel wrote in news:XnsAB03F315DF14DHT1 @hT41KfD4S.AX7vkLJvJmN3J574s978y2CV9TWfjub5k8tZfIBcnITL5:

You retarded f*ck. It was your stupid post that I responded to.

Diesel wrote in news:XnsAB03F31648294HT1 @hT41KfD4S.AX7vkLJvJmN3J574s978y2CV9TWfjub5k8tZfIBcnITL5:

Please go play with a line transformer up on a pole.

Move the nodes closer to you.

Diesel wrote in news:XnsAB03F316C8E9AHT1 @hT41KfD4S.AX7vkLJvJmN3J574s978y2CV9TWfjub5k8tZfIBcnITL5:

Idiot. Anyone getting within an inch of ANY high OR even medium voltage source is stupid. Just like you. Your brain is bent, boy.

Your experiments are dumb and decidedly unscientific.

Do you even know what the word empirical means?

Paschen did, way back in 1889.

Diesel wrote in news:XnsAB03F3199FF89HT1 @hT41KfD4S.AX7vkLJvJmN3J574s978y2CV9TWfjub5k8tZfIBcnITL5:

Oh, look. The retarded f*ck cannot support his claim, so runs off apologizing for arguing to start with.

Notice how not one person came to stand on your side.

Why? Because VOLTAGE is what initiates an arc, NOT "amperage".

Maybe you are not *current* enough. Have to up *your* *amperage*.

we been saying that for a good while. Don't feed the troll.