"We"? I see. Typical leftist talk. "WE (royal) have nice cushy jobs, go screw if you can't pay our taxes and standard of living." Sorry Win, while I do have a rather nice job, I'd not live any nearer Boston if I won the PowerBall.
"We"? I see. Typical leftist talk. "WE (royal) have nice cushy jobs, go screw if you can't pay our taxes and standard of living." Sorry Win, while I do have a rather nice job, I'd not live any nearer Boston if I won the PowerBall.
I thought SFO was inside the legal city limits (many cities extend islands out to include airports - taxes and all that). Besides, many cities are known by their ATC calls. ORD, anyone? ;-)
AFAIK, John Larkin has a few engineers he's managed to capture.
;-)
Mine came from both sides. My father was an EE prof (but on the power/motor/transformer side of the biz) and would take me to work with him to get me out of the house. He always had "stuff" for me to tear appart to see how it worked. Well, he *always* had the stuff after I couldn't figure out how to get his typewriter back together. I was about
8 at the time (he died when I was 12).He taught me how to use tools before I was in school. IHe thought it was better to learn how to use tools than have them available and not know.
OTOH, we had a very practical undergrad program. Design/build/test was part of the program, at least for most. It was a big school (425 in my graduating class), and there were many programs/specialties within the EE department. It was the favorite hunting ground for my employer at my hiring location, because the grads had paractical experience, at least enough to know which end of a soldering iron to pick up. ;-)
My wife dropped out of college to support me, or rather we couldn't afford tuition-for-two. She got her RN later, just before my son was born, but never used the license.
Hmm, from all the whiners in these groups, there is no need for engineers in the US anymore. *ALL* such jobs aere going to India. No? ;-)
Hello Tim,
A year instead of the current half year requirement would also be better in Germany. Even there you find increasing numbers of engineer where I'd wonder how they can design anything that works and at reasonable cost. Often they want to do stuff with a micro controller than can be done with a couple transistors for pennies.
Just get your youngest interested in electronics ;-)
Regards, Joerg
There's no need for you to gratuitously smear me, just because I see Bush for the idiot he is. My point was that in Massachusetts we work hard, and create our own good jobs, so that generally there are plenty here to go around. I took part in that myself, starting a company and paying high wages for the good jobs of 30 to 40 people, for 16 years. Does that fit in with your twisted image of a leftist? (The reason it's expensive to live here is because we have more good jobs than housing for the potential new employees, despite building on any open space available. It's a simple matter of supply and demand.)
Yet you condemn people like me, claiming we're privileged, or think we are. You can just kindly take your trash talking and dump it. Frankly, along with hundreds of millions of other people to the left of GW Bush, I earned the respect I get.
Thankfully they are not. I strongly recommend it as a career.
SFO is within the legal city limits of San Bruno, about 10 miles away from the legal San Fran City limits, as noted. As for O'Reilly's Dairy ...
PAO and RHV (Palo Alto and Reid-Hillview) are much closer to Silicon Valley.
Jim
Never. Many are going to India, but there are some things that need to be done on site, and Indian wages are increasing. During the last real downturn none of the people who I considered to be in the top 50% of the profession were let go -- it was only the people who generated comments like "oh _he's_ gone? whew!".
Except that, legally, SFO is part of the City of San Francisco.
John
It's amazing how many people have worked for Dolby at one time or another. I think it's like ILM, where the pay is low because the prestige is (perceived to be) high.
"Technology", singular. We only have one.
Sure, send a resume or drop by. We're moving to Otis street around the end of the year.
John
Ah, one of the twelve known natives.
John
I learned how to solder years before i went to highschool..
I was born and raised here in SF. When I was around 10 years old, I took an airplane trip to visit some relatives. Nobody actually flew with me, though I was met at both ends by family members. On the way home, I sat next to this woman who asked me whether I was happy to be getting back to 'Frisco. I actually didn't know what she was talking about. "What's 'Frisco?" I said. She told me that it was a nickname for San Francisco. First I'd heard of it.
And Digidesign which is just outside the city limits in Daly City.
I've never seen any positions at Dolby that were a good match for my skills. I check from time to time. Maybe I'll send you a resume one of these days.
My current commute is oppressive, although I like the work and the people. If I worked at Highland Technologies, my commute would be under 10 minutes. ;-)
--Mac
AFAIK, no airlines fly to PAO and RHV (that's the one in San Carlos, right?).
As John Larkin says, SFO is legally part of San Francisco, but it is not contiguous with the rest of The City. The SFO police are members of the San Francisco Police Department, for example.
Still, you can't get from San Francisco to SFO without going through some place else first. ;-)
--Mac
I read in sci.electronics.design that Winfield Hill wrote (in ) about 'PRIORITY SEARCH: Analog Electric Engineer', on Fri, 2 Sep 2005:
I'm afraid you leave yourself open to it, by using terms like 'idiot' which are favoured by the raucous element.
Hello Tim,
Right. Top talent will always be in demand. There is also a growing trend to lower the cost of doing business and the cost of living here. Especially in SW where the job exodus is more severe some people and businesses have moved away from expensive and high tax metropolitan areas out into the country. Some have actually said in interviews that it had benefits they didn't even think about. Such as low or no crime, less TV because it just ain't there, healthier eating because there ain't no fast food place, much cleaner air, virtually no traffic etc.
Regards, Joerg
I read in sci.electronics.design that Joerg wrote (in ) about 'PRIORITY SEARCH: Analog Electric Engineer', on Fri, 2 Sep 2005:
Quite, but of course it doesn't last. After 10 years, it's downtown!
A developer is someone who wants a country home. A conservationist is someone who already has one. (;-)
Hello John,
True but then you just move again. Some places are in areas that nobody else wants to go to. Climate too rough, not enough entertainment value, whatever. The downside of those is that there usually isn't any big airport close by, just landing strips. So you need to be able to secure service from the local guys in their Cessnas and be pretty resistant against air sickness.
And an environmentalist is someone who moves into a country home and rushes back to the city after the first harsh winter's fire wood splitting. Or after the well froze up. Or the electicity went for the umpteenth time. Or because the cell phone shows zero bars everywhere or the next Volvo shop is three hours away. Or because the absolute highlight of the year in terms of cultural enlightenment is a rodeo (in the case of your northern brethren it would be the customary telephone pole toss).
Regards, Joerg
Get off it Win! If you can't see how you and your kind (elite eastern snobs) look down on the rest of the country, it's not me smearing you. You've done the job better than I could ever do.
No doubt, but your eastern snobbery demonstrats that you think everyone else in the country is a slacker, perhaps because they don't agree with your perception of reality? Boston is *not* the center of the Universe, no mater how much Kennedy, Kerry, and Hill think it is. I wouldn't put up with that crowding on a bet!
Does the term "limosine liberal" sound familliar? It should. DOn't get me wron, I respect you as an engineer, and even as a person. I don't particularly like your looking down your long blue-nose at the rest of the country! ...it's just too popular in the East, and not becomming of anyone with an IQ above room temperature.
There *are* other places to live. THere are places with good jobs with a lesser cost of living and *FAR* shorter commute. You may be fine in Boston with the rest of the BN's, but it's not a place one can get started, not that I ever wanted to. I'm far closer to Boston than I ever thought I would be now. OTOH, I do like the Sox (well, anyone one but the Yankees) and am a Pats fan. I guess I've lived in the east far too long!
You're the one looking down your L-B nose at the rest of us! ...typical eastern liberal. Your hate will overwhelm you.
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