Arizona is going down the tube.......

UBS has been finking out the offshore crowd. I really don't care if they get screwed since the IRS had several programs to cheaply repatriate the money during the Bush years. Hell, if you were a corporation, you could repatriate money with a 5% penalty. It was in one of Bush's (cough cough) "job creation" acts.

Now if we could just tax the underground economy (gardeners, home improvement so-called contractors, etc.) and of course tax the churches

And you think abortion is a hot topic !

This would make the right wingers run for cover.

don

I heard on NPR the other day that some areas need more money for sewage treatment plants and that as a way to riase this money they were considering a TAX ON TOILET PAPER!!!!

Mark

Simple. A blanket PURCHASE/CONSUMPTION/EXPENDITURE tax. Rather than trying to track down underground income, just tax what they spend! That'd get the church folks and the bureaucrats, too!

After all, every tax dollar there IS comes out of some poor schlub's pocket, one way or another.

Hope This Helps! Rich

The problem with a consumption tax is you taxed the income of many people all their lives. Then when they retire and don't make money, you are now going to charge a tax on what they consume? It will never fly.

If the states would charge fees for services instead of using the general fund, things would run smoother. For instance, DMV fees, the gas tax, and the sales tax on gas in California should only go to transportation. This was supposed to be the case thanks to two propositions, but the Governator has stolen the money year after year, replacing it with IOUs that will never be repaid.

Incidentally, the CA sales tax on gas taxes the federal tax, so you pay tax on tax.

Like sales tax? Or VAT? We already have taxes on lots of stuff from income to expenditure. And we get various things like clean water, support for higher education and research, road construction, law enforcement... just a million things. Civilization, in a word. If we didn=B4t have taxes to support foolish, greedy, inefficient government activities such as those I just mentioned and many others, civilization would die a slow and painful death. When it comes to government, you take the good with the bad, and do your best to eliminate the bad stuff and keep the good stuff. Nothing will ever be perfect.

Minnesota's Governor Tim Pawlenty would not call that a tax, but a user fee.

b. Farmer

On Nov 12, 12:40=A0pm, " snipped-for-privacy@sushi.com" wrote: [...] miso > Incidentally, the CA sales tax on gas taxes miso > the federal tax, so you pay tax on tax.

It could be funnier. They could tax the tax and then also tax any tax refund!

This happens too!

When they do stuff like that can you help the feeling they hoped nobody would notice? LOL

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Liberal, Leftist and Democrat are polite aphorisms for YELLOW.

I am just wondering why democrats are pushing gun control issues...

VLV

Probably because they hate Freedom, like all good little communist dupes do; apparently so do the neocons.

We have to get rid of ALL of the bastards! Kill a Bureaucrat for Christ!

Hope This Helps! Rich

No, that's a luxury tax (ask Jim about the alternative from Sears and Roebuck). A "user fee" would be the meter on the toilet tank.

When?

Job security, of course. That's a given.

Doesn't federal income tax treat the the FICA set deduction as income? So if you collect social security and manage to have too much income, you are effectively being taxed twice. Don't quote me I'm not there yet. ;-)

When you get a return from the state, you need to declare it on next years federal, since you deducted it from your income. That's not a double taxation though.

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Taxes do pay for the above, true. But only 1/3rd. 1/3rd to military & infrastructure. The other 2/3rds goes to Great Society stuff, i.e., handouts. Taken from one citizen, given to another.

True story.

-- Cheers, James Arthur

There is a penalty for early SS withdrawal if you're still working (I'm not there either, so...). However, that's not "taxing the refund".

Right. You deducted what you shouldn't have and are repaying it the following year.

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Help me with the math, all those thirds don=B4t add up somehow.

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Okay, 1/3 + 2/3rds =3D 1.

James Arthur