Pence should be protected to avoid constitutional crisis

the WH steps really knocked him out. It was clear that he was running an u ncomfortable oxygen deficit, trying desperately to avoid having to sit down and breathe hard while he posed for the photo op. I saw him gasping for ai r with increasingly deep breaths, that last gasp was a really mighty whole chest heave and then they cut off the video. Trump is a very sick man. My b est guess is that his lung capacity is less than 50%, and probably much low er. Some of this will be permanent and some will be recovered.

clearly willing to put his own life at risk in the hope of looking electab le (at least to his supporters)..

ld class" health care doesn't mean it's any good, so small comfort there.

ion. Remdesivir is supposed to slow down the rate of viral replication, but it certainly doesn't stop it. Doctors can do quite a bit to keep people wi th severe infections alive, but essentially they are just buying time for t he immune system to do its work.

There are still some things they can do to save his life. One established f uture therapy they should get to work on immediately is separating out a sa mple of his vital t-lymphocytes, while he still has them, and doing a massi ve cloning replication for a future transfusion. They can also start preparations for a stem cell infusion directly to his l ungs in the hopes of regenerating alveoli otherwise permanently lost. This therapy has also been shown to be successful just recently- in animal tests IIRC- but when you're backed up against the grave, anything is worth a try .

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r to the WH steps really knocked him out. It was clear that he was running an uncomfortable oxygen deficit, trying desperately to avoid having to sit down and breathe hard while he posed for the photo op. I saw him gasping fo r air with increasingly deep breaths, that last gasp was a really mighty wh ole chest heave and then they cut off the video. Trump is a very sick man. My best guess is that his lung capacity is less than 50%, and probably much lower. Some of this will be permanent and some will be recovered.

it is difficult to assess without extensive testing.

, which is reversible. Covid-19 can rip up a lot of the surface of the lung , which is harder to fix.

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he's clearly willing to put his own life at risk in the hope of looking ele ctable (at least to his supporters).

't actually make a person well. Someone needs to tell Trump that.

e told. Pretending to be well takes a lot of effort.

"world class" health care doesn't mean it's any good, so small comfort ther e.

fection. Remdesivir is supposed to slow down the rate of viral replication, but it certainly doesn't stop it. Doctors can do quite a bit to keep peopl e with severe infections alive, but essentially they are just buying time f or the immune system to do its work.

cells in seriously ill people. The cell count being as low as 10% of the A IDS threshold. Medically unrelated to AIDS as it seems, it should give you a hint of the near total loss of immune function. The patient is unsalvagea ble at that point- just guessing.

the sicker you are, the harder it is for you to stay alive long enough for your immune system to beat the infection (particularly when your immune sys tem is competing for increasingly scarce resources).

Ridiculously over simplified statement showing you missed the point entirel y.

I don't find that. Got a link?

I guess he needs a couple of Ricky's ventilators.

Wishful and hateful thinking. He looked pretty perky to me walking down the front stairs of the hospital. He just tapped the handrail a couple of times.

I heard a short interview with his MD who said that his blood oxygen level dipped to 95% a couple of times. 95 per cent! According to CNN,

percent. If the level is below 90 percent, it is considered low and called hypoxemia. Arterial blood oxygen levels below 80 percent may compromise organ function, such as the brain and heart, and should be promptly addressed.

This is cool:

The effect is called "grit."

ly nothing. When the president is known to be at risk, America must protect the vice-president's health and safety at all costs. To do otherwise risks an unprecedented disaster. Pence should be in a bunker at an undisclosed l ocation. Instead, he?s scheduled to hold a live, no doubt crowded a nd maskless, rally in Arizona on Oct. 8. Allowing Pence to campaign with a pandemic raging and an infected president in the hospital is an act of sabo tage against both the American government and the Constitution. This isn? ??t just bad judgement. It?s completely reckless. Who cares abo ut safeguarding America?s chain-of-command when you?ve got an election to win?"

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o that themselves through their adaptive immunity. Since his immunity is "n aive" as they say, I doubt he has even mounted a response yet, as that take s two weeks for even a young, healthy person. The virus WILL bounce back th e minute his remdesivir regimen is discontinued. This is also a great way t o select for remdesivir resistant strains of the virus too.

the WH steps really knocked him out. It was clear that he was running an un comfortable oxygen deficit, trying desperately to avoid having to sit down and breathe hard while he posed for the photo op. I saw him gasping for air with increasingly deep breaths, that last gasp was a really mighty whole c hest heave and then they cut off the video.

Go to any network video coverage of his return.

s than 50%, and probably much lower. Some of this will be permanent and som e will be recovered. Given the early stage of his infection, this does not look good at all. And despite the claims of that Navy bs-artist doctor ( an d idiot), "world class" health care doesn't mean it's any good, so small co mfort there.

You're blind. I, on the other hand, know exactly what I'm talking about.

Perky? Talk about seeing what you want to see. The first thing that struck me, before noticing he was near suffocating, was the total absence of vigor in his step. Nah- this man is ill.

Total bull- that bunch lies for a living. I wouldn't believe a word they sa y. Journalists, especially announcer types, are idiots, at least here in Ameri ca. They must have missed the recent news that lots of people are admitted for COVID-19 hospitalization with SpO2 hovering around 10%, some make it, s ome don't. An ultra low level is not immediately fatal.

. When the president is known to be at risk, America must protect the vice- president's health and safety at all costs. To do otherwise risks an unprec edented disaster. Pence should be in a bunker at an undisclosed location. I nstead, he?s scheduled to hold a live, no doubt crowded and maskles s, rally in Arizona on Oct. 8. Allowing Pence to campaign with a pandemic r aging and an infected president in the hospital is an act of sabotage again st both the American government and the Constitution. This isn?t ju st bad judgement. It?s completely reckless. Who cares about safegua rding America?s chain-of-command when you?ve got an electio n to win?"

It was just a flesh wound.

OK, no link.

I'm just an engineer, and you are an MD and epidemiologist?

Link?

Right.

stopped near the heart. A metal spectacle case and a triple-folded manuscript of his speech slowed the bullet. Further, a surgeon noted

(and remained there until he died) that saved his life."

I like people who aren't afraid. Fear distorts thinking. I think one's fear level is fundamental and mostly unchanged through life. It's inborn.

utely nothing. When the president is known to be at risk, America must prot ect the vice-president's health and safety at all costs. To do otherwise ri sks an unprecedented disaster. Pence should be in a bunker at an undisclose d location. Instead, he?s scheduled to hold a live, no doubt crowde d and maskless, rally in Arizona on Oct. 8. Allowing Pence to campaign with a pandemic raging and an infected president in the hospital is an act of s abotage against both the American government and the Constitution. This isn ?t just bad judgement. It?s completely reckless. Who cares about safeguarding America?s chain-of-command when you?ve g ot an election to win?"

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to the WH steps really knocked him out. It was clear that he was running an uncomfortable oxygen deficit, trying desperately to avoid having to sit do wn and breathe hard while he posed for the photo op. I saw him gasping for air with increasingly deep breaths, that last gasp was a really mighty whol e chest heave and then they cut off the video.

less than 50%, and probably much lower. Some of this will be permanent and some will be recovered. Given the early stage of his infection, this does n ot look good at all. And despite the claims of that Navy bs-artist doctor ( and idiot), "world class" health care doesn't mean it's any good, so small comfort there.

ck me, before noticing he was near suffocating, was the total absence of vi gor in his step. Nah- this man is ill.

A link won't do any good for your self-lobotomization.

Lot of fear. No link.

ing. When the president is known to be at risk, America must protect the vi ce-president's health and safety at all costs. To do otherwise risks an unp recedented disaster. Pence should be in a bunker at an undisclosed location . Instead, he?s scheduled to hold a live, no doubt crowded and mask less, rally in Arizona on Oct. 8. Allowing Pence to campaign with a pandemi c raging and an infected president in the hospital is an act of sabotage ag ainst both the American government and the Constitution. This isn?t just bad judgement. It?s completely reckless. Who cares about safe guarding America?s chain-of-command when you?ve got an elec tion to win?"

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People from that era were full of s*it. You would be wise to take it in str ide before you hurt yourself.

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y nothing. When the president is known to be at risk, America must protect the vice-president's health and safety at all costs. To do otherwise risks an unprecedented disaster. Pence should be in a bunker at an undisclosed lo cation. Instead, he?s scheduled to hold a live, no doubt crowded an d maskless, rally in Arizona on Oct. 8. Allowing Pence to campaign with a p andemic raging and an infected president in the hospital is an act of sabot age against both the American government and the Constitution. This isn? ??t just bad judgement. It?s completely reckless. Who cares abo ut safeguarding America?s chain-of-command when you?ve got an election to win?"

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that themselves through their adaptive immunity. Since his immunity is "na ive" as they say, I doubt he has even mounted a response yet, as that takes two weeks for even a young, healthy person. The virus WILL bounce back the minute his remdesivir regimen is discontinued. This is also a great way to select for remdesivir resistant strains of the virus too.

he WH steps really knocked him out. It was clear that he was running an un comfortable oxygen deficit, trying desperately to avoid having to sit down and breathe hard while he posed for the photo op. I saw him gasping for air with increasingly deep breaths, that last gasp was a really mighty whole c hest heave and then they cut off the video. Trump is a very sick man.

That is entirely expected from this disease. Others who had a "mild" case report significantly lower physical abilities for weeks or months. You don 't have to be put in a hospital to know you are very ill compared to the "f lu".

ch lower. Some of this will be permanent and some will be recovered. Given the early stage of his infection, this does not look good at all. And despi te the claims of that Navy bs-artist doctor ( and idiot), "world class" hea lth care doesn't mean it's any good, so small comfort there.

I'm not terribly worried about the care he is receiving. I'm worried that no one has invoked the 25th amendment and allowed him time to rest and reco ver. If a crisis arises that requires prompt action a delay because Trump is not fit may take time that is not at hand.

Being sick does not make him less fit to be elected to a second term, but i t may well make him too sick to effectively govern now. This guy is in cha rge of the entire military including nuclear weapons. If he isn't close to 100% he needs to step down until he is better.

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to the WH steps really knocked him out. It was clear that he was running an uncomfortable oxygen deficit, trying desperately to avoid having to sit do wn and breathe hard while he posed for the photo op. I saw him gasping for air with increasingly deep breaths, that last gasp was a really mighty whol e chest heave and then they cut off the video.

less than 50%, and probably much lower. Some of this will be permanent and some will be recovered. Given the early stage of his infection, this does n ot look good at all. And despite the claims of that Navy bs-artist doctor ( and idiot), "world class" health care doesn't mean it's any good, so small comfort there.

You don't need to be an MD and an epidemiologist to notice that somebody is breathing hard. John Larkin does specialise in wishful thinking, and he's remarkably prone to see what he wants to see - and he clearly wants to see Trump as a successful egomaniac, likely to be re-elected to give out even m ore tax cuts the the undeserving.

ck me, before noticing he was near suffocating, was the total absence of vi gor in his step. Nah- this man is ill.

Trump does specialise in giving video opportunities to prime time televisio n. I didn't see it on the TV news last night, but that did happen to coinci de with my once a month NSW IEEE executive committee meeting.

No, grit.

People in our era are frightened wusses.

othing. When the president is known to be at risk, America must protect t he vice-president's health and safety at all costs. To do otherwise risks an unprecedented disaster. Pence should be in a bunker at an undisclosed location. Instead, he?s scheduled to hold a live, no doubt crowd ed and maskless, rally in Arizona on Oct. 8. Allowing Pence to campaign w ith a pandemic raging and an infected president in the hospital is an act of sabotage against both the American government and the Constitution. T his isn?t just bad judgement. It?s completely reckless. W ho cares about safeguarding America?s chain-of-command when you? ??ve got an election to win?"

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othing. When the president is known to be at risk, America must protect the vice-president's health and safety at all costs. To do otherwise risks an unprecedented disaster. Pence should be in a bunker at an undisclosed locat ion. Instead, he?s scheduled to hold a live, no doubt crowded and m askless, rally in Arizona on Oct. 8. Allowing Pence to campaign with a pand emic raging and an infected president in the hospital is an act of sabotage against both the American government and the Constitution. This isn? ?t just bad judgement. It?s completely reckless. Who cares about safeguarding America?s chain-of-command when you?ve got an election to win?"

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It would appear you are judging others by yourself. You are hunkering down and wearing your mask and having your offices disinfected at night. Why? Because unlike the President you are afraid of catching this virus. You a re one of the frightened wusses.

I don't get why you judge others for doing just what you are doing.

Lifeguard/football player Joe Biden used asthma to avoid the draft. He seems OK now.

Clinton has a story:

I got a legitimate occupational deferrment. I would have been a lousy soldier.

How about you?