Most XP users who encounter trouble will have to pay Microsoft for help. (ref: Paul McDougall informationweek.com/1226/xp.htm)
Windows 7 will likely fare no better than Windows Vista in terms of adoption. The reason is simple: Windows 7 is based on Vista and not XP. Vista's bloatware development mentality led adopters to buy into brand- new machines. Buying a machine for the home is one thing. Buying a brand-new machine for everyone's desk at an office is costly. Windows 7 will likely also require a heftier system to operate. It will likely not operate on systems that run XP and can't be upgraded to Vista.
So, for all the same reasons Vista bombed in the workplace, so will Windows 7. Microsoft needs to figure out a way to get back to the system requirements that XP needed while still providing the "advanced features" it wants to include.
Typical Microsloth s*1t. Vista is a dog, just like that Millenium Edition was. :-( MS needs to rethink its marketing strategy. Charging for support of XP is just highway robbery. If MS products were cars, they'd be recalled.
I'm told that Windows 7 is noticeably better than Vista -- people often say it's what Vista "should have been." We'll see...
Well, you could say the same thing any time a new OS is released that (inevitably) has greater system requirements than its predecessor -- I remember people complaining about Windows 2000 to Windows XP upgrades, after all. The problem Vista had is that it required a *significant* step up in computing horsepower for *little to no* perceptible difference in operation. Even with efficient coding, at some point new features require more resources.
It's kinda fun to play with virtual machines and see how many resources you really need. Something like Xubuntu does quite well in 256MB of RAM and 10GB of disk space, and it's still a "medium weight" distribution in that it includes "full-featured" apps like Firefox (although it does eschew OpenOffice for Abiword, Gnumeric, etc.). That's roughly "Windows 2000" era requirements... nice!
On May 4, 7:49=A0pm, Robert Baer wrote: > Windows XP Support No Longer Free >
I've never called MS for help though I _have_ bothered the IT guys at work once in a while. The enterprise version of Win XP Pro has been loaded MANY times in getting new computers running but the latest one was simply using Copy Commander (highly recommended) to copy the HD to get another system running - WITH NO CURSING!!!!! And in record time....
On a sunny day (Mon, 04 May 2009 19:49:02 -0700) it happened Robert Baer wrote in :
Win 7 will have an Xp mode, virtualiser I think. If that is any good as MSDOS window was in win 98, where my games no longer worked, then well... that would be the end then :-)
I am alrready pissed at Xp that is scratching my disk and when I finally want to switch it off, tells me to *wait* as it has to install 9 more updates... No fun if you use dual boot with Linux, and you have to wait 10 minutes for XP to do that before you can reboot.
And all those virusses....
Better use Linux and forget MS products, unless there is a very very strong reason where someting will not work as to lack of drivers and it *must* be MS.
On a sunny day (Mon, 4 May 2009 20:48:01 -0700) it happened "Joel Koltner" wrote in :
Most people have no idea what really is going on in the PC box. What needs what resources so to speak. To give you an idea: I have a Duron 950 MHz (so not even 1GHz), that runs:
X Xserver (graphics) Apache2 webserver protpd ftp server sendmail mail server named name server php
Firefox 3 webrowser Opera9 webrowser 2 (for example for sites that crash firefox). NewsFleX usenet news reader
2 security cams, 1 recording end encoding in software to H264 at 2fps, the otehr 25 fps via digitiser and bit blit to display. Star office spread sheet, other stuff, Postgres database, with PhPpgadm web frontend xpdf pdf viewer swcad in wine windows emulator satellite TV digital recording xine time shif playing of digital recordings mixers 2 sound cards, 2 mixers. xmpl media player, uses sox or mpg123 for mp3 eagle PCB layout home automation temp control, alarm system, etc.. firewall snort intrusion detection + counter measures. joe several instances, text editor. etc etc
And the system load is (top): top - 13:09:59 up 4 days, 17:38, 10 users, load average: 0.92, 1.01, 0.99 Tasks: 129 total, 3 running, 124 sleeping, 0 stopped, 2 zombie Cpu(s): 6.3% us, 4.6% sy, 41.1% ni, 45.7% id, 0.3% wa, 0.7% hi, 1.3% si
Actually, Win2k operates quite well on a smaller footprint. I still have one laptop, worked on it yesterday. It contains 128MB of RAM and AFAIR Win2k uses less than 1/3rd of that.
The amazing thing about this old Dell Inspiron 2500 is that it has run >10h/day for over 8 years, to the tune of roughly 30,000 hours grand total. The touchpad has a serious "valley" and many key letterings are gone. Other than that, full backlight brightness, runs and runs and runs.
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Win 7 is less resource hungry than Vista. And hardware vendors are unhappy about that - not essential to buy a new PC to run it.
Many corporates I know are hoping to skip Vista entirely.
It is a working OS. But with a very big footprint and incompatibilities with certain models of famous brand hardware. I have a Toshiba portable that has an MTBF of only a few hours running Vista. There is nothing wrong with the hardware - only with the Vista drivers for it.
My desktop Vista is pretty much OK (although I did manage to max it out by having a large number of big images ~64 open simultaneously). The interesting symptom was that animation stalled and the next image opened was black cat in the proverbial coal cellar. The deadlocked animation of an imploding window being closed was very amusing to look at. The OS did eventually recover when I closed a few more of the image windows, but didn't regain full speed until it was rebooted.
If only IBM's marketing department had not been such dorks we could be using a robust system derived from the OS/2 development now.
It reflects the environment in which it was developed and, to some extent, the dominating markets in which it is used. Totally unatural access to and requirement for resources.
It's too bad that China or India didn't dominate in early development, though I can just imagine the administrative restrictions that would have been imbedded there.
Microsofts "support" has always been worthless anyway. Nobody with a clue would rely on it.
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On a sunny day (Tue, 05 May 2009 19:12:25 -0700) it happened Robert Baer wrote in :
Yes, probably a good way to do it. I have become a bit reluctant to tick 'never ask for this again' sort of boxes.... Because I then never update... I am subscribed to a German security letter,
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that sends me weekly emails with all the stuff that is wrong, worms, needed security updated, latest scams, etc... but what that comes down to is that you have to upgrade firefox, MS stuff, flash player, adobe reader, and a whole lot of other stuff _every week_ almost.
This cannot be right, and I have no time for that crap, to do it all manually. So for MS I trust the auto updates. In Linux I never ever had an exploit in any program (that I know of), but a zillion attempts to hack my server.... So I firewall and sysadm that very precisely, with the help of the security letter too. But now there was even a new xpdf (pfd reader) needed for Linux too. Something needs to change in all that crap. I am against gov filtering everything, our last bit of freedom the internet, but they could get some of those virus creators AND the virus program sellers who have an interest in publishing the latest attacks; Kaspersky did that with the DNS problem, and then all script kiddies try it... Even if 1 in 10000 internet users goes bad, or tries an attack out of curiosity, it can bring much of the internet down.
So, my latest solution: I have one PC for critical application that is not connected to the net at all :-)
Wow, no NSA will have to ... LOL Paranoia sells, be it for flue, terrorists, software worms, whatever.
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