So name one useful scientific discovery that was worth the lives and the billions. Name one.
Putting people in space makes no sense.
-- John Larkin Highland Technology, Inc picosecond timing laser drivers and controllers jlarkin att highlandtechnology dott com http://www.highlandtechnology.com
It might yet yield valuable fruit - but only time will tell.
You would doubtless have been railing against the futility of an exotic device requiring a huge perfect ruby crystal, expensive flash lights and cooling to work but today lasers are essential to our way of life.
Blue sky research is incredibly difficult to predict the outcome or applicability of. Unplanned consequences of going to the moon included:
Pocket calculators (initially desktop) Mechanical seals (ie cars that don't dribble their vital fluids)
Putting people into space just for the hell of it makes no sense.
Unless we find something where a robotic probe cannot be engineered to do the job then people in the hard vacuum of space are too fragile and when working outside in a pressure suit also incredibly clumsy.
The trip to Mars project will be big brother with real teeth as you the viewer get to choose who gets ejected from the airlock first.
-- Regards, Martin Brown
You are an idiot.
I find it quite amusing that you claim to be educated and scientifically minded, yet fail to see what is right there before your pathetic worm eyes.
The advances made in science as a result of space based micro-gravity laboratories is huge.
The fact that you are not only denying these facts, but are also apparently wholly oblivious to any of them is a huge indicator that you are a fake. And also a big loser for denouncing the scientific advances garnered so far, and yet to be discovered.
I see this as you failing to get a contract at some point in the past, and since spending your time thereafter denigrating them because YOU failed to cut the mustard.
One of the experiments is a huge, external apparatus with several robotic arms on it. Meant for testing robitic applications in space.
You idiots would not be so far behind, if you simply kept up all these years instead of being a John Larkin turtle shelled retard about it.
Those guys have been circling the Earth in that giant tin can for 15 years or so by now. What we have learned is that spece is very unhealthy for humans. Spinning around in LEO hasn't created much science. The ISS may as well be a tin can sitting in Arizona somewhere, and wouldn't need Russian rockets to get there. The only difference is microgravity, which turns out to be a novelty but not otherwise very useful.
We could launch hundreds of cubesats for what it costs to keep one astronaut in that tin can, maybe do some real science.
Name one useful thing the ISS has accomplished, something worth $150 billion and a dozen or so lives. I keep asking that question and get only lame insults in response.
That's ludicrous. Desktop calcs existed long before JFK put men on the moon as a political gesture. Did the moon program invent gaskets?
NASA has a long history of taking credit for things it didn't create.
That's exactly what the ISS has demonstrated.
That would cost a trillion dollars and kill a few more people.
-- John Larkin Highland Technology, Inc picosecond timing laser drivers and controllers jlarkin att highlandtechnology dott com http://www.highlandtechnology.com
Which accomplishes what?
-- John Larkin Highland Technology, Inc picosecond timing laser drivers and controllers jlarkin att highlandtechnology dott com http://www.highlandtechnology.com
So, name one.
-- John Larkin Highland Technology, Inc picosecond timing laser drivers and controllers jlarkin att highlandtechnology dott com http://www.highlandtechnology.com
at least it is a bit less violent than the other government jobs creation and economic stimulus program, that makes stuff painted in camouflage
-Lasse
There is that Alpha magnetic spectrometer thing.
George H.
-- If I did, you'd say it wasn't worth it just to start another pissing contest, so piss off.
There is one thing the ISS could do: stud it with telescopes to look for earth-threatening comets, and also stage a small fleet of interceptor rockets up there, ready to launch. That has a small probability of saving a billion lives. The astronauts become heroes protecting our cities, no longer geeks-in-a-can watching silly putty in microgravity.
Being "international", it could avoid the treaties that forbid orbiting nukes.
-- John Larkin Highland Technology, Inc picosecond timing laser drivers and controllers jlarkin att highlandtechnology dott com http://www.highlandtechnology.com
That could have been an unmanned satellite. It was designed to fit into the Shuttle, because the Shuttle needed payloads.
"The ISS was created as a destination for the Shuttle, and the Shuttle was created to access the ISS."
-- John Larkin Highland Technology, Inc picosecond timing laser drivers and controllers jlarkin att highlandtechnology dott com http://www.highlandtechnology.com
Taxpayers will pay for an adventure story but don't give a rat's ass about discovery.
Manned flight beyond where we've been requires new means of propulsion, and NASA declined the option to spend money on new engine research when given the choice between that and more shuttle flights.
You can't name one.
Two urine references in one sentence!
-- John Larkin Highland Technology, Inc picosecond timing laser drivers and controllers jlarkin att highlandtechnology dott com http://www.highlandtechnology.com
Which is the key point. We can do surgery by remote control. EVERY experiment on the station could be unmanned.
Chemical rockets won't colonize the universe, or even the solar system. Radiation could be a show-stopper too.
Lots of good things could have been done with $150 billion. One day the ISS will be abandonded, hopefully before it kills another crew, and then its value can be assessd.
-- John Larkin Highland Technology, Inc picosecond timing laser drivers and controllers jlarkin att highlandtechnology dott com http://www.highlandtechnology.com
ISS is the best available proof that black holes *do* exist and are dangerously close to Earth. This one is man-made and sucks money...
Best regards, Piotr
Then is there a reason to have a space station? Is it a flying anchor?
-- John Larkin Highland Technology, Inc picosecond timing laser drivers and controllers jlarkin att highlandtechnology dott com http://www.highlandtechnology.com
Ideally we'd have a space elevator lifting experiment packages. The center of the elevator would be in geosynchronous orbit, so there you'd have zero-G. There could be some facilities like power supplies and robotic arms to handle the experiments.
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Advances in chip epitaxy, such that some of those high end devices you use wouldn't be here otherwise.
At this point, I really do not expect you to have the capacity to understand.
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