OT: Solar farm with batteries, to power LA

Irrelevant, of course!

California != the world, something Rick C also has difficulty grasping.

Weather vs climate; surely you can understand the difference.

Global warming will cause the /global/ /average/ temperature to rise.

Some places will become /much/ colder, e.g. Europe when the gulf stream moves southwards.

Principal cause: the lack of /cold/ water from Greenland and the arctic. There are already ambiguous signs that is happening.

Until they get worse.

For example, relentless optimism and excessive risk taking caused Deepwater Horizon.

No, it shows a strong systematic bias, which even Top Scientists are not immune to.

One interesting thing about mid-California is how erratic and unpredictable the weather is, compared to the rest of the USA.

It's raining pretty good now. It's not supposed to rain in September.

Which fed a lot of voracious critters in the Gulf. From what I've read, you have to dig down into the beaches to find solidified bits of oil. A couple weeks of end-of-the-Gulf headlines, and nothing much resulted. Beasts (and people) down there will eat most anything.

Again, doomsday is popular.

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They may not be immune to it, but science is all about detecting and cancel ling out any systematic biases.

John Larkin doesn't know much about science, so he is unaware of these mech anisms, and doesn't understand them when they are pointed out to him.

"California?s precipitation is the most variable, year-on-year, of any state in the nation.

Not only does the Golden State get almost all of its rain and snow between November and March, but the majority also tends to fall in a few heavy stor ms, occurring over just five to ten days. So if just a couple of major stor ms drift north or south, it makes a huge difference."

You aren't supposed to make generalisations about California's weather ..

Doomsday is attention-getting.

Anthropogenic global warming isn't actually a doomsday subject, though the trivial media that John Larkin seems to pay attention like to claim that it is.

The reality is that the real increase in the CO2 level in that atmosphere i s producing a real increase in global temperature, which makes droughts and floods more likely, and more extreme. Tropical cyclones are a special case - Dorian was record breaking.

Acknowledging this isn't any kind of doomsday alarmism. Some places have al ways been vulnerable to bad weather, and anthropogenic global warming is ad ding new target areas, but it isn't going to wipe out the human race.

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eir food supplies from the world market, just as they are doing now with ma ny food supplies which we have essentially cut them off from. At the same time we are increasing our debt by subsidizing our farmers. I wonder who i s buying that debt and what the impact will be if they stop buying US debt?

gain the rate in the US and much lower than many areas of the world. So th ere is no reason to believe they will be starving in the future either.

out financial dominance. Khrushchev wasn't talking about bombs when he sai d, "We will bury you!" He just couldn't pull it off.

Where there IS going to be a problem is when the snow melt from the Himalay as can no longer supply drinking water to the large part of China it curren tly serves. The snow is disappearing, and well, just wait to see what happe ns when a billion or so people find themselves thirsty with no Perrier in s ight.

Agriculture takes a lot of water.

They could reduce the problem by buying up farms in other parts of the world with sufficient water, and transport the food back to China.

It says nothing, however, about reality. There's no reference to any facts about climate, nor any guidance on how to proceed. So, it's irrelevant to rational beings.

It's an example of spin, which can be applied in any direction, to any topic, for a modest fee (50 cents a word). Real research and credible models cost more, but they're worth it. Those are not aimed, by PR folk, in incredible directions.

they are doing that already.

ISTR hearing something to that effect :)