OT: Seattle's Anarchist Utopia

A group of anarchists in Seattle decided to cordon off part of the city and make it a police-free zone. Anarchists claim they don't need police to make them behave in a civil way and police only kill innocent people anyway, so they might as well be abolished. Let's see how that's working out for the city.

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I assume Bill Sloman, Bitrex and Rick C will be upping sticks and moving to Seattle, where their philosophy, at long last, has the chance to flourish.

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Cursitor Doom
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Their attempt to grow their own vegan food is hilarious.

They will get tired and wet and hungry and drift away, so Bill and the other revolutionaries should get there soon to be in on the fun.

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John Larkin

The link points to an article on rt.com or Russia Today. Oddly, it seems to favor the position of the authorities, rather than anarchists and protesters. In the past, RT would take the side of anything that looks like a "revolutionary". So what's different here? Perhaps the Russians haven't had time to infiltrate and possibly control the various groups involved? Dunno.

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Jeff Liebermann

CD does seem to have a knack for spreading Russian propaganda...

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John Robertson

That's cursitor doom's SOP. He always hides the source of his (mis)information behind an obfuscated URL.

That isn't necessary, so it raises the question as to why he does it.

Left hand, right hand. Information plus disinformation leads to distrust. Or any of the good old tried and trusted agitprop techniques honed over the decades, but used in new mediums.

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Tom Gardner

Makes you wonder what the Russians are doing for him!

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Ricketty C

Nonsense, of course. Putting police 'in charge' of a rally of strident protesters against a police action or policy, is a recipe for disaster. Anarchy is not being practiced nor discussed, and the 'autonomous zone' has normal rule of law, just not an armed occupying force.

The mayor is on board with this action, and it seems to be less violent than the earlier police-in-force episodes. So, the public safety is not at risk.

There's nothing new about outrage over government force; the Boston Massacre (1770), started off the American Revolution; the use of troops during the Hayes election (1876) got a LOT of angry discussion; the infamous coal miner's strike (1913-1914) didn't get any of the culprits put before a jury, but maybe it should have.

So, maybe the twenty-first century has an episode worth angry discussion, too. Live with it.

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whit3rd

Nah, unlike you and a bunch of the other pensioners here I'm a businessman and work for a living. Between the anarchists and 40 million seniors on SS I suppose someone's got to try to do an economy, yeah?

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bitrex

It wuz the Clinton administration and Janet Reno et al who pushed to give law enforcement the big money they have in the first place.

That wasn't the way the Right was leaning in the mid 90s at all. They were predicting a right-libertarian Renaissance.

Didn't take long to get from there to "lock her up!" and "Send in the troops", I guess.

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bitrex

And the Clintons did "send in the troops" from time to time e.g. Ruby Ridge and Waco TX and they wasted them. But those were white people so a lot of other white people were unhappy about that.

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bitrex

Speaking for myself, my assumption is that Cursitor Doom hasn't got a clue what's actually going on, and has misrepresented what he does know in a way that fits his demented way of looking at the world. I haven't seen anybody else claiming that anything interesting is happening in Seattle.

No real anarchist would be silly to claim that "police only kill innocent people anyway" so it's probably some right-wing provocateur trying to pose as an anarchist, in a deliberate attempt to libel anarcho-syndical ism, which is a rather better worked out political philosophy that Cursitor Doom seems to imagine.

The mainstream media are a little better informed that Cursitor Doom - but who isn't - and presumably aren't taking it seriously.

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Bill Sloman

The US has massive police budgets and ponderous police presence given how many serious crimes actually get solved.

The intersection of guns being mostly legal and widely available and drugs being highly restricted means the police have to deal with endless situations that involve or may involve the intersection of the two, it's pretty much all they do with their time.

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bitrex

Different word, ah "paradox" maybe.

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bitrex

You can focus on the messenger rather than the message all you like, but the fact of the matter is, if things have got so bad that even biker gangs feel they have to step up and restore order so the police can re-take their building.....

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Martin James Smith

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