OT: Chimney Brace (To Do or Not to Do)

Concrete works best if poured into a form, not into a dirt hole. It's also considered a really bad idea to apply a load on concrete before it has cured (about 2 weeks). You might also think about horizontal rebar as the end of the foundation pad that sticks out beyond the edge of the chimney bricks experience torsion stresses, which will crack the slab at the chimney line.

It won't work, no matter how many jacks, fork lifts, or helicopters you use to lift the chimney. The problem is that all those methods create TENSION in the brickwork. Brick is good in compression, but really lousy in tension, especially without any reinforcing rebar or center pipe. As soon as you try to lift the chimney, it's going to crack.

However, even if you manage to excavate some dirt from under the chimney base, you have a precision problem. 0.5" out of 18ft is about

0.13 degrees. How do plan to precisely settle the chimney with that level of precision, and how do you plan to prevent it from leaning into the house and destroying the weather seal? Like I previously mumbled, this thing is going to require some expertise and experience. One mistake and you lose both the chimney and the house.

You might want to ask your insurance agent if your homeowners insurance covers such do-it-thyself repairs. Mine requires proof that the work was done by a licensed contractor before State Farm will pay on a claim.

Incidentally, you might want to do some reading on the various proposed solutions for straightening the Leaning Tower of Pisa. They closely parallel your chimney straightening problem. Most of the bad ideas were variations of tension problems along with stress concentration (buckling) problems. The only methods that had a chance of working were based on undermining the tower base, and letting it settle into a lower position. Raising the tower would have broken it.

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Jeff Liebermann
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After the final positioning, we will leave the jack in place while the concrete is curing. Jacks are cheap.

It's the same whether you jack up or down (undermining the base), there will be tension and compression somewhere. As long as we do it slowly (in weeks or months) with a clear path for the chimney to move, it should not create too much stress on it.

That's why we have the jacks to position it, rather than relying on the dirt below. It should not move unless we turn the screw (during adjustments). We can also leave a small gap to make sure it won't lean on the house.

I know, that's why we are thinking it loud first.

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Edward Lee

Why post this to an electronics group?

Either you are a licensed contractor, and should know the answer, or you need to get one to come out, do a survey, and tell you what to do. Else you risk invalidating insurance, and falling foul of building codes.

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Fred Abse

Most tire jacks only lift half a car.

so you plan to lift the chimney off it's foundation redo (or patch?) the foundation and then set it back in place, that could get exciting if it rains...

ever hear of expanding concrete? that's what the pro's (underpinners) use. but you only get one try

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Jasen Betts

... from another post ...

Because every engineer (including electronics) studies physics and basic mechanics.

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We only need to tilt (try it on Google, very funny) it by 0.2 degree. Three (1.5 tons jack) on each side.

No, just raising one side (with steel beams and jacks) by 1/8" and lowering the other side by 1/8".

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Edward Lee

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