Nuclear subs collide

Feb 16, 2009 29 Replies

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When that novel came out, it was required reading where I was working (Scientific-Atlanta Government Products Division). One of my coworkers was a retired USN Master Chief Sonarman (and former NISC rider). He thought Clancy should have been in jail, but he was also very proud of the central role of the Dallas' sonarman. BTW, a "Crazy Ivan", or clearing the baffles, is a 90-degree turn, which will steer the side-mounted passive array to listen right down the former baffles.

Blind Man's Bluff by Sontag and Drew and is not a novel, and it details a lot of the same things that were mentioned Red October.

Not exactly. You're conflating a couple of related but different maneuvers.

FWIW, Red October had approximately as much relation to reality as "The Jetsons" does to contemporary 21st century life. Just sayin'.

El Reg has a pretty good commentary that helps to put things in perspective:

Rich Webb Norfolk, VA
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Not Clancy, but the USN people he was getting his info from.

I'm surprised the Israelis didn't take him out (like Gerald Bull) when he spilled the beans on where they get their nukes in "Sum of all Fears".

I'm not certain if this is where I read the story about the collision between the US and Soviet subs a few decades ago. The US sub commander had retired and passed away thinking that the Russian boat had been lost with all her crew. Although we were technically enemies, its not something sailors like to have on their conscience. But after the Soviet Union fell and opened up to the west, some reporters found and interviewed the commander of the Russian sub, who had managed to save the boat and get back to port.

Paul Hovnanian paul@hovnanian.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Have gnu, will travel.

"and drown all of my men from the gaping hole I put in our sub."

b Commander: "Now go away or I shall bump you a second time."

It happened because they didn't recognize each other since they were both wearing "rubber" noses. Like all good submariners, they crashed together silently.

This is far from the first time that two subs have hit. Playing cat and mouse games while wearing blind folds tends to lead to that sort of thing happening. Subs have a blind spot on the sonar directly behind. The following guy tends to try to get into that blind spot. The guy in front does things like sudden turns to check to see if anyone is following.

Apparently the french cat was after british mouse. Why? Just for the sake of the exercise?

Vladimir Vassilevsky DSP and Mixed Signal Design Consultant

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doesn't make sense;*boomers*(strategic ballistic missile subs) are supposed to -avoid- other vessels,to avoid detection.

They are not supposed to be playing "attack sub".

Jim Yanik jyanik at kua.net

The Russians aren't putting enough to sea to keep the crews in practice.

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Which crews?

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