Indeed. I see you got your fax line from the DNC fixed again.
Of course. And if we survive, and a vibrant democracy is formed in Iraq, will you promise to swallow your gun and pull the trigger in shame?
Gunnner
"Pax Americana is a philosophy. Hardly an empire. Making sure other people play nice and dont kill each other (and us) off in job lots is hardly empire building, particularly when you give them self determination under "play nice" rules.
Think of it as having your older brother knock the shit out of you for torturing the cat." Gunner
says the fellow much in need of a visit with nice Mr. Electroshock.
Gunner
"Pax Americana is a philosophy. Hardly an empire. Making sure other people play nice and dont kill each other (and us) off in job lots is hardly empire building, particularly when you give them self determination under "play nice" rules.
Think of it as having your older brother knock the shit out of you for torturing the cat." Gunner
"Pax Americana is a philosophy. Hardly an empire. Making sure other people play nice and dont kill each other (and us) off in job lots is hardly empire building, particularly when you give them self determination under "play nice" rules.
Think of it as having your older brother knock the shit out of you for torturing the cat." Gunner
It's not to toke up, pound a few brews, then tuck you into bed.
Typical leftist weenie answer. I'm really not too concerned _why_ they want to kill as many of us as they can. The only thing important, at this point, is that they _do_.
More typical leftist weenie moral equivalence. The west goes out of its way to minimize "collateral damage". Their intent is to *maximize* the killing of innocents.
They did. You don't listen much, eh?
Domination? I don't think we've grown our borders much in a century or so.
Ah, you'd rather be dead than have someone defend you. More typical leftist weenie "thought". Been reading Howie Dean's talking points again?
Like 9/11?
Ah, so you do support devenge. ...perhaps only if it's against the US. What about the previous WT bombing, embasys, Bali...
We are. Our business right now is to exterminate terrorists and those who support them.
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That's understandable. Our media gives much more attention to casualties on the Isreali side compared to the ones on the Palestinian side. But if you look at the actual figures, Israel takes at least 5 eyes for an eye, and 5 teeths for a teeth. I can imagine this upsets the Palestinians/Arabs. The Good Book recommends one eye for an eye, and one teeth for a teeth. Then there's the strong financial support that Isreal receives from the US. That may also upset the Palestinians/Arabs a bit, don't you think? We should spend more time looking into the mirror.
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Thanks, Frank.
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On Fri, 11 Nov 2005 22:34:47 -0800, Harold and Susan Vordos wrote: ...
It depends. What _is_ "their cause"?
I guess, but does anybody have the courage and integrity to face up to _why_ they want to do this?
THey aren't the only ones who kill innocent women and children. When the US does it, it's called "collateral damage".
A, who told you this, and B, if that's the case, how is it distinguishable from what it appears that the neocons are trying to do?
No more than the US government, who should all be hanged for treason.
I'd rather face the prospect of some random lunatic than let the neocons rape and defile the Constitution as they seem to be intend on doing.
Yadda, yadda, what a party line. Did you ever stop to consider that if we _weren't_ attacking them _there_, that they would have no _reason_ to fight us here, or there, or anywhere?
Yes, and I recall seeing the website that mapped it 1:1 onto the destruction by US/Israeli missiles of Lebanon's tallest structure, and the murder of thousands, and that the 9-11 thing was revenge. Well, 2:1; we only knocked down the one (along with who-knows-how-much "collateral damage"), we, in our lofty arrogance, had the two.
Stop attacking them, stop destroying their homes, stop cramming our way of life down their throat, maybe the toughest one of all, MIND OUR OWN BUSINESS!.
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Yes, he did. I just wish more people who believe that all we have to do is leave them alone would contact some of the overseas employment firms, take a job in the Middle East, and get over there and work for a while. I did, part of '75 and from '78 until '82. There's a rabidly fanatic minority who unequivocally want us dead. Anyone western...........dead. The average Arab impressed me as decent, hard working and deeply devout. But the radical Islamists went way beyond devout. Made a wild-eyed Pentecostal here look weak and submissive by comparison. There is just_no_dealing with these people. I could get along with damn near anybody back in those days. Appeasement simply will not work and will be seen as weakness. I was at a loss to figure out where all this malignant hatred came from, as were the other Americans and Europeans that I worked with. But I'm convinced it started in the mosques and found fertile soil in the young and poor who had nothing else to believe in. If you'll notice, we had no significant military presence in the Middle East during the time I was there. It is what it is and now their numbers have grown to the point that they're organized enough to attack us here. Every time our troops send a herd of them to Allah, it makes my day. And from what I saw of the typical Arab male, given a chance, they'll build Iraq into a place where they can raise their families in peace. Nobody is cramming anything down there throats, politically. And I'm not good at this politcal bullshit either, Harold. But I know what I lived among.
I shared a cubicle at Sperry Flight Systems with an Iraqi during the first Gulf War and learned VERY much about the history of Iraq and Iran. I also have an Iranian friend names "Salar" who now goes by "Sal" to avoid conflicts.
Joe Average Iraqi/Irani wants exactly what you and I want, as you said, "...raise their families in peace".
Maybe we should just send all our "born agains" over there to fight the terrorists ;-)
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I love to cook with wine. Sometimes I even put it in the food.
"Pax Americana is a philosophy. Hardly an empire. Making sure other people play nice and dont kill each other (and us) off in job lots is hardly empire building, particularly when you give them self determination under "play nice" rules.
Think of it as having your older brother knock the shit out of you for torturing the cat." Gunner
Yes, there are a lot of suicide bomers. Nobody can deny that.
But, the important question that needs to be asked is, what _caused_ this dramatic increase in suicide bombings? Has anybody _asked_ "What are you trying to accomplish?" rather than just _ASS-U-ME-ing_ that their goal is the total obliteration of everything that's not them?
Even if it was, how is that different from the right-wing imperialists?
2) It removes the terrorists from an area where they might find comfort from sympathizers
3) While accomplishing point 2, it keeps the terrorist isolated from the main US population, where if they were to escape they likely seek to continue their terrorist activities and find an entire nation of potential victims.
4) cheap rent - the base is already there and has the facilities and meets the requirements of points 1, 2, and 3
And you want a really honourable reason?
5) To tick off the terrorist sympathizing socialist left-wing liberals.
Well, golly-gee there, Parson. Thanks so much for your little dose of absolution. I guess. Do me a small favor. Get your self over there for a few years. The jobs pay very well. Then get back to me on just exactly how you feel about radical Islamists. We'll talk it over. I'm buying the beer.
Who the *FUCK* cares! The problem is _here_. and it;'s either them or us! ...too bad for them, though you and the KKK (Kennedy/Kerry/Klan, nice link me thinks) would rather it be us.
There are no "right-wing imperialists", simple-pimple! ...only people trying to save your lazy ass.
Very unsurprising. For example, just for giggles, try coming up with one honourable reason to set up a prisoner's camp in a law-free zone (Guantanamo Bay). I don't think it's because of the cheap rent.
I tried to use the IR2153 to run a half bridge using two n-channel mosfets as in the circuit diagram on the first page of the data sheet, and it didn't work. I discovered that HO only sinks, it does not source. LO works; it sources and sinks, and the cap for Vb does take a charge. I found this out by slowing the timing down to about one hertz and using grain-of-wheat lamps to see what the outuputs were doing. Same thing happened with both chips that I tried. Has anyone used the IR2153, and what do you have to do to get the high side drive to work?
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