MIT Radiation Lab series on CD-ROM?

If one is willing to be selective in what they choose to examine, it would be easy to show that the Earth is flat and the center of the universe.

You are being selective with the evidence you consider, Jim.

Jon

You dispute it's accuracy, then. Apparently, Jim, Blair does NOT dispute it. His comment about it was quite circumspect, saying that there was "nothing new there."

At least, you considered looking at it.

Jon

Could be. But I believe that it's not the best way, if it is really the case that it is false. And, in fact, Blair has reacted quite strongly to other accusations and this particular response is NOT consistent with that behavior, when he felt he was right. Frankly, I don't believe past behavior matches your analysis here.

But I cannot say what is in his mind. Neither can you, I suppose.

In that case, he simply made the same kind of stupid remark that a great many other men in similar situations would have made, hoping that the lie wouldn't blow up in their face. In fact, most guilty men asked that question would probably have to fight a strong impulse to lie and hope they didn't get caught.

He was ...human...

Could be just as you say. It plays into a general sense in Europe that this is exactly the truth of the situation, so it may take some time for it to get fully vetted through time and people will believe it in the meantime.

Frankly, though, it is entirely consistent with my impressions at that time about what was going on -- the Bush administration was pushing pel-mel, come hell or high water, damn the torpedoes, towards this war back then and it was patently obvious to me AT THE TIME that they had a schedule to keep and they were going to keep it regardless. Anyone with even a small amount of rational skepticism could see it, then. It was clear as a bell that evidence didn't matter to them, at all. And that they were NOT going to try and provide any support for their own position, regardless of the seriousness of the situation and the high standards that should have been met in such cases.

So anyway this "isn't anything new" to me, too.

Jon

P.S. Similarly, by the way, with GW Sr in claiming there were 100's of thousands of Iraqi soldiers and thousands of tanks lining up at the border to the Saudis in 1990. Satelite photographs purchased by satellite photo experts working outside the administration, taken from several commercial satellite companies, consistently showed NOTHING meaningful on the border at the very time all this was claimed to be taking place. Later analysis over the intervening decade and a half have shown that these photographs were authentic and accurate and so has post-mortem examinations after the fact.

I don't dispute that Iraq was behaving badly then. But I don't like lies from our administrations to goad behavior. Period.

We should just flatten the place. One bomb is all I ask ;-)

But we won't. We'll provide the funding for Kim Jong Il's welfare state and he'll stay in power... the people will remain totally ignorant of anything other than the great Kim Jong Il.

...Jim Thompson

Other than I am very hawkish... Don't Tread on Me is my favorite flag, I'm probably more of a Libertarian.

But I register as a Republican, since you can't jump parties in the primaries like you can in other states.

So I'm a firm believer in NO government, or at least minimal.

...Jim Thompson

Yes. Neither my wife or I could figure out why he bothered saying anything on the subject, when asked by congressmen. But I can also remember lots of stupid things I wish I had done differently, too, in hindsight.

Of course, I'm not president of a country. Those folks are supposed to be smarter than me.

Jon

I believe that's called "cognitive dissonance disorder."

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There were tons of stuff we didn't do because we simply didn't have the computer gear. Some of the things we would have liked to do would have taken three football fields of footprint just for the equipment...oh, and we would have liked to have the c increased a lot ;-). It would have been wonderful to have gear so reliable that it wouldn't get upset if you looked cross-eyed at it; the trade-off was that we could kick it. Today's gear ignores cross eyes but you can't kick it.

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I've been reading some foreign policy books written in the 80s by US think tanks. I did not know thta Kim Jong Il's father had established himself as a religion. The authors also wrote that the father spent a lot of time playing Russia against China. Assuming that this is a standard, what we're seeing now by the son is a similar ploy and the US won't play along. Note that I still have a LOT more studying to do but this is my first impression based on writings that I have yet to identify the bias.

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This is the price we pay for a general population that is largely a bunch of immoral, racist, and mindless morons... You can go ahead and illuminate every bit of what we always knew to be blatant deception to the nth degree and not a single one of the marching morons will give a damn. As long as these idiots like to fantasize about the WWII era, they need to ask themselves how in hell we achieved a total victory in Europe from the 6/6/44 landing to VE-day in less than half the time we have been occupying one of the weakest third world nations outside of Africa while achieving nowhere near the same level of control-or even ironing out some major logistics failures like supplying the troops with decent body armor.

Right.

Let's not forget that by D-Day, Germany had already spent five years and most of its ressources on a huge war against strong and committed opponents. The support the US are getting in the Iraq war was, for very good reasons, half-assed at best and came from allies that were bought rather than convinced.

bob

Reading? Thinking? Studying? Now what kind of un-American attitude is that?

bob

I got a kick out of one of David Letterman's jokes the other night. He said something like, "Today is the 60th anniversary of the end of World War Two. You remember WWII, don't you? That was the one where we conquered a merciless tyrant, and WENT HOME!"

Cheers! Rich

I guess it's easy to be funny when you play fast and loose with reality (and have an ignorant audience).

Do you mean that after World War II, the soldiers didn't come home? Or that we didn't win?

Thanks, Rich

- We certainly didn't clean up the streets and come home in two years.

- I count 28 US military bases in Germany, 9 in Italy, and 10 in Japan. 47 military bases in the former Axis countries sixty years later doesn't look much like we "came home", right after WWII.

- OTOH, perhaps you think we should stay in Iraq another 58 years.

Well, "they" lost. I'm not sure what we "won".

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If one country spends a lot on the military it is forcing many other countries to waste a lot of resources on weapons too.

Before WWII wars ended with a demilitarisation. The soldiers went back to civilian occupations. Problems between nations were handled with diplomatic means again.

That changed in 1945, when one country did not demilitarize and go back to peaceful conditions. Instead it set out to rule the whole world, to let its businessmen do business all over the world, unhindered by political or economical views of other countries. To let the big corporations have the ultimate power in the world, unhindered by ideas like democracy and socialism, workers unions or religions.

They learned a lot from the germans, how to control the opinion of the own population with mass media and schooling, how to conquer big parts of the world and use its natural resources, how to move around rocket launching sites on trucks, how to build cruising missiles with nuclear warheads, how to control the population in conquered areas, etc..

How to never stop fighting, no matter if there is war or peace officially. They invented "the cold war" and anti-communist hysteria to justify this.

If the citizens of that country had stopped their own government from military spending and from an aggressive foreign policy the rest of the world would have been spared a lot of suffering. And we could have learned how to cooperate globally in a voluntary and peaceful manner.

Actually, two: the USSR and China.

John

They won:

John