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Hey, I heard today, Bernie's motto while in N.H. is "Live Free or Die" I don't think he understands living off others labor, is not what it's about. Mikek

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You might be surprised at how little you actually need.

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John Larkin

Has Bernie actually ever had a real job?

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John Larkin

Yes... until you need healthcare.

NT

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tabbypurr

Today Obama proposed placing a tax on oil, how many supporters are going saying ya tax those rich oil companies. ;-)

Mikek

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amdx

I'll assume you don't think acting is a real job?

Mikek

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amdx

low. Germany charges up to 45%, with a 5.5% "solidarity tax" on top of tha t. In Australia it's 45% again, with a 2% Medicare levy on top of that, and in the Netherlands 52%.

Good social security and massive spending on training. A higher proportion of Germans have some kind of tertiary training - which does include trade apprenticeships - than an other nationality.

Scandinavia works the same way, with government spending a higher proportio n of of the GDP than pretty much anywhere else, and the work force is corr espondingly well-trained, and well-retrained when their skills become obsol ete. Finland throws in one of the best education systems in the world - and it's good in part because teachers have unusually high status and salaries .

Even John Larkin knows that spending on women's education is the most profi table investment available in third world countries, but it still pays off (if less extravagantly) in advanced industrial countries.

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Bill Sloman

Luckily, Congress will ignore him.

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The Union of the Soviet Socialist Republics did claim that was what they we re doing, but they managed to have relatively high levels of income inequal ity, and members of the communist party looked remarkably like the rich 1% in the current USA.

Scandinavia and Germany probably come closer to "to each according to their needs and from each according to their capacities", but their Gini indices are 0.25 - 0.28 in Germany - which, while better than the US where it's 0.

45, are a long way above zero (which would be perfect equality). There are certainly plenty of rich Germans around.
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Bill Sloman, Sydney
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Bill Sloman

No socialist thinks that one should live off other's labour - that's how they see capitalism - but rather that a portion of the labour of those lucky enough to be able to labour productively should be devoted to supporting those who can't be as productive.

Even the most bird-brained right-winger is happy to see the police and the army living off other people's labour, not to mention teachers and medical staff, but they'd prefer to see the support negotiated below government level.

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Bill Sloman, Sydney
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Claiming that they have been "hiked by Obamacare" is vintage James Arthur.

Most countries let their health care organisations haggle, and they do get their patients lower drug prices than are paid in the US.

They could - after all they they legislated to stop Medicare from haggling about drug prices, which has to be equally irrational - but I doubt if ther e would be as much lobbying in favour of any of those bills.

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Bill Sloman

Who do they make wealthy?

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Jasen Betts

Yes, I didn't mention that. Many places (including China) have a VAT that is between 15 and 20%. The US has no federal sales or services tax at all, and states that do have sales tax (most do) only have around 8%.

Of course one government distortion can be (and usually is) countered with another to provide relief to the poor.

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So long as it isn't entirely 'gender studies'..

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Spehro Pefhany

does it have lead in it?

Jamie

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M Philbrook

Only in the water in democrat run cities.

Gotta keep them voters stupid.

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Tom Miller

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"Gender studies" are typically tertiary level stuff, and a minor player in arts faculties at that.

Virginia Victoria Valian's "Why so Slow"

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isn't. She's a professor of psychology at Hunter, and pulled together the p sychological explanations of why women aren't promoted as fast as they shou ld be.

The book was published in 1998, and still sells well - if rather oddly. Gin ny claims that it moves batches of around a hundred books, as individual in stitutions realise that they aren't promoting enough women to higher rank j obs, and buy a copy of the book for everybody in a higher-rank job.

It's also got some very funny examples of the mechanisms in action - Ginny has a lively sense of humour.

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It wasn't the voters who were stupid in Flint, Michigan. The emergency admi nistrators were the guys who decided to save money by switching the town's water supply from the Lake Huron (via Detroit) to the Flint River, without implementing (presumably expensive) anti-corrosion measures.

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Bill Sloman

ir needs and from each according to their capacities", but their Gini indic es are 0.25 - 0.28 in Germany - which, while better than the US where it's

0.45, are a long way above zero (which would be perfect equality). There ar e certainly plenty of rich Germans around.

Surely no-one believes equality is the perfect situation. Gone would be alm ost all motivation to work hard, risk one's money etc etc. It would be an i dealised version of the USSR, and everyone would be equally poor.

NT

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tabbypurr

  1. Company owners, who then spend their money, ie transfer it to others one way or another.
  2. Employees, who get paid jobs
  3. Society generally benefits from business, since overall business provides services that give people an advantage and sell products that do likewise.
  4. A significant amount of the profit made gets invested in new businesses, some directly, some via banks, etc.

NT

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tabbypurr

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