Is it possible to die from a battery ?

Skybuckaroo,

I like weird questions like this.

I think a battery would have to be of several thousand volts across the typical 9-volt style terminals to have any chance of killing someone. I suspect there is about a 4 to 5 kV maximum before arcing occurs and so the battery would be 'impossible' to make.

It does sound reasonable to me though, 15 people per year. What that number probably reflects is people who had prior medical conditions.. heart attacks in response to tongue zapping (I gave this up long ago;) and so forth.

Popping ballons in grandpas ear probably does in more than that, for example.

However, to answer your question, I am convinced there is zero chance of dying from a 9 volt zap to the tongue. Current has to flow through the heart or the brain... ahh, and if the case is attached to the negative terminal, as it sometimes is, and the case is held in a wet hand, .. I see, the current flows through the arm via arteries pasing through the heart on the way to the tongue, yeah .. it could happen.. i changed my mind, but the answer is yes, albeit unlikely.

Byeeeee Geoff

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grunt
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I'll explain why it works like this in more detail if you'd like.

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grunt

Actually, there must be several ways to die from a battery;

A single battery, accelerated to sufficient velocity via slingshot, or other means..., could easily be lethal if it struck a person or creature at sufficient velocity. 400 miles an hour or so would probably do it, but you will at least face battery-assault and battery-battery charges with heavy penalites. .. you see, you get one assault and three batteries, so the fines add up.

I suppose if you pulverized, powdered, and inhaled about 6 batteries, I would expect that to be lethal (don't try this at home kids).

Put on a turbin, show it to a british cop, claim it is a bomb, and they will shoot you without hesitation. (that one is too easy).

I'm sure the CIA would hire someone to kill you if you claim both that you have a lot of them, and they could reduce our dependency on oil.

Put on some fishing waders, fill the waders with all the batteries they can hold, and swim across a large lake.

If you are ''black'', show one to a Boston police officer. They shoot black people for reasons similar to that, man or woman.

So Mr. Skybucks, how long have you been feeling depressed? Where did you get the idea for the battery ? What ever happened to sleeping pills and alcohol?

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grunt

Mr Pooh. That is unnecessary.

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grunt

FUCK OFF !

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Pooh Bear

Almost impossible, but it does tingle and "tastes" bad. However, there is at least one documented case of someone dying from a 9v battery, after going to great lengths.

IIRC, it was a US Navy trainee that was trying to measure conductance through his body and jabbed a DVM probe into each hand. The current was high enough, and he was alone in the room long enough, that the effect killed him. I'm sure you could find the official report if you Google enough.

Richard

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Richard H.

Hi,

This link is to how voltage and stuff works.

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It mentions batteries etc...

It also mentions if a thick wire was connected with both ends of the battery a high/strong current would happen.

I once heard or read that per year 15 people die because they stick their tong to a battery.

Is this possible ? Is it possible to die from a battery like this ?

Bye, Skybuck.

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Skybuck Flying

Lol, you been reading one to many Skybuck posts lol, your brain can't handle it.

I suggest you stop reading some skybuck posts for a while :D

Bye, Skybuck.

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Skybuck Flying

No thanks, you have explained it enough.

I just wanted to know if it's possible to die from it, so I won't try it :) and other people better not try it as well ;)

By the way, you pretty lucky to be alive then ? ;)

Few. Bye, Skybuck.

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Skybuck Flying

No, it's just that people die like that.

I picture an old grandman knowing nothing about all this stuf... and she is stupid enough to stick her with hand with the battery against her tong and dies.

How the hell would she have know not to do that ;)

Batteries should have warnings on them: "they can kill you" just like sigarettes :)

Bye, Skybuck.

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Skybuck Flying

I would bet good money that this is not true.

When you touch a battery to your tongue, the current is confined to the area near the battery terminals. There is a strong sensation, but little chance of permanent injury or death.

If you bypass the electrical resistance of the skin, somehow, for example by using sharp electrodes to puncture the skin, a low-voltage battery might then produce enough current to kill a person (it doesn't take a lot of current at all). But I believe the current would have to pass through the heart or brain or both to be dangerous. So the electrodes would have to be placed in such a way that current flows through those areas.

To those who may be reading, please don't experiment with this. If you are really interested, I'm sure more detailed information can be found either on the Internet or in a library.

--Mac

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Mac

But "he" has a lisp now, eh?

It only takes a few milliamps to kill. Even a wimpy battery can deliver many times that.

If the sin insulation is breached it doesn't take much (other than bad luck) to kill.

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Keith Williams

;-)

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Spehro Pefhany

Perhaps those people actually swalloed the battery and choked to death

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The Real Andy

A friend put his tounge on what he believed to a be a 9V battery, but it was in fact a 90V one. (I forget what they were used for). He surviced OK.

I doubt very very much you could be killed by the current from the battery directly, but as others have said, shock can kill - a balloon bursting can causes someone to have a heart attack.

A large battery can supply a huge amount of current and quickly heat up a conductor. A wrist watch could become hot very quickly. I don't know what your chances of dying from loss of block or shock (in the medical sence) then are, but probably not insignificant.

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Dave

Fatal current is around 100mA Once the skin is broken the resistance is around 100R Work it out yourselves

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Dirk Bruere at Neopax

Actually, he's Mr. Bear.

Ken

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Ken Taylor

I recall once reading that 10mA or 1/100 of an ampere (same thing) across the heart itself is sufficient. I suspect that tasers are 'safe' because they use radio frequencies which would cause currents to flow on the surface of the body (depth proportional to frequency). When thinking about lethality of voltage jolts, one can use joules as a unit more useful than volts of amps and it corresponds to watts as a unit of energy.

Generally speaking, on practical terms, most people need only care that the outlets near their kitchen sinks and bathrooms have what is called 'ground fault protection' built in. If you don't have GFI outlets, you can replace the ones you have. I don't have them, but I don't use the outlets.

Circuits on the order of difibrillators in charge start entering the realm of lethality, and there are circuits like the electromagnetic pulse can crusher (lookup 'shrinking quarters') which probably are extremely lethal if mishandled.

Since this is an electronics group, it is useful to point out that a common trick of the trade is, when you are not sure about what voltages are present, put one hand in a back pocket when you approach the work with the other hand. This reduces the chance of an across the heart jolt. Don't change light bulbs in your socks on a wet basement floor (been there, done that, survived), don't open your TV set, don't use a hairdryer in the tub (um, republicans are immune though;), don't climb high tension towers, and dont rescue kites from high tension lines. 9 volt batteries are just a bother to the tongue, and voltmeters often are more revealing. Call in downed power lines by dialing 911.

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grunt

I reckon even a low current of say, 10ua could kill if left on long enough, like days. It would upset the chemical system of the body. Things going where they shouldnt go etc.

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Kevin Aylward

Death by leakage? How exactly would one implement the attack or the suicide? Aluminum (Aluminium) strips affixed to the head and feet, with a good sturdy 9 V Radio Shack battery driving the evil mechanism? I'm ready to write the TV script.

Hmmm, if it works, I may want to try it when the alzheimers sets in.

Fuck, I'll need help. Who do I trust? Oh, and then there is the time factor. Maybe a simple 110 or 220 AC source would be more efficint.

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xray

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