# If you're good at breadboarding & simulations, please, join the discussion!

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If you ever wondered about Over Unity, I keep no secrets and hide no schematics.

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You have a serious problem in your interpretation of the results of the simulations. You need to study basic passive circuit theory, and probably before that, basic physics so you can really understand the concepts of "energy" and "power".

I can show you a much simpler circuit that provides a huge step-up in voltage while maintaining the same current as the input (or vice- versa, or pretty much whatever ratios you want), but in no way does that imply more energy coming out than you put in.

Cheers, Tom

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He's using dilithium capacitors.

John

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Or Cold Fusion, maybe. Their mistake was in a way similar: failure to account for all the energy going in. I suppose in this case, it is failure to make a proper accounting of output power.

Cheers, Tom

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He got them from a used interociter.

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Methinks you want to read up on the following topics:

LC tank "Q" power energy

But in the meantime, think about how you're going to extract those currents and voltages from your circuit, to send them elsewhere to do useful work.

I hope you will come to see the error of your ways.

-Mike

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None of you have studied plasma. You have a bank of capacitors in parallel charged to 450 volts. Then you send a 4.5KV trigger pulse through a lead in a xenon bulb. Suddenly, there's a bright flash. Ta- Da, plasma conducts as well as wire, and it can if you can keep it hot enough. Replace any piece of wire where you several kilovolts at a few amperes, and once you've ignited the plasma it stays hot.

Try this reading material on for size:

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Plasma at RF frequencies will stay hot enough to remain as conductive as wire. As a gas it is almost a superconductor.

Then try reading this:

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and going to this website:

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No it doesn't. From here is where most of the "plasma loon" theories start. The reason the bulb makes light and the wire doesn't is because the energy is being converted in the plasma. ie: the plasma isn't conducting as well as wire.

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It is about as close to the perfect insulator as it is to a super conductor.

Super conductor Plasma Perfect insulator

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(A) What the heck makes you think that none of us have studied plasmas? (B) What the heck does that have to do with your original posting in this thread, in which you claimed, I believe, to have come up with a circuit that provided more power coming out than going in? (The circuits I saw posted at your linked site contained only linear passive components, no plasmas or the like.) (C) Just WHAT are you flavoring your coffee with? Perhaps you should stay away from that stuff.

... (D) There's nothing special about a circuit that has more power coming out (over a short period) than power going in. Anyone should be able to easily do that. What's much more interesting is a circuit in which you get out more energy than you put in initially plus any additional you put in over time.

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Something is a superconductor or not. There's no "almost."

Ooh, 4.5% efficient! That will give a Sterling engine some tough competition.

John

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OK, if a superconductor has zero resistance, what do you call a conductor with _negative_ resistance? A superduperconductor? ;-)

Cheers! Rich

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If you find one with negative real resistance, let me know. I want one.

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Well, duh, try plasma. Didn't you know that that's why gas discharge lamps need a ballast?

Cheers! Rich

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Stuporduckor? Daffy Duck as Stupor Duck 1956..

D from BC British Columbia Canada.

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I call them the reason the heat sink on my power supply keeps frosting up.

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That's not negative real resistance. Negative slope, yes, negative sign, no.

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Keith```
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That's funny, negative resistance works out like a self biased transistor in a box with a wire running through it. As you increase the voltage across the circuit, current increases disproportionately. If you start with 100 ohms of resistance at 1 volt, negative resistance results in 50 ohms at 2 volts.

The conductivity of a plasma is dependant on two factors, the desity of the gas or pressure, and temperature.

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Or you can go here and ask yourself why is this arc so much longer than any distance between two wires?

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The answer is simple, plasma is more conductive than wire. The amount force generated by heat shows you how much longer the plasma channel must be before a list of factors finally allow it to break. If that were a magnetically coupled plasma in a penning trap the gas couldn't rise and the potential of heat causing to would be eliminated. So,

500KV can go that far, and be that hot.
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The Human Fly Trap

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The wire looks shorter, the distance in the air greater and greater, and still the plasma holds out.

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That's still positive 100 ohms and positive 50 ohms.

"Negative resistance" is just shorthand for resistance with a negative derivative. The resistance always has a positive value. If such a thing as negative resistance existed, then you could apply voltage to the circuit element with negative resistance and get current flowing back into the power supply, creating unlimited energy. But I guess you believe in that. What do you think about evolution?

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