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Which means that he posts stuff that's complicated enough that right-wing n itwits struggle to make sense of it. In this case Dan failed to make sense of Win Hill's published biographical details - most people think that Win H ill can express himself clearly, but obviously not clearly enough for Dan.

's personal details.

They come from public web-sites. Winfield Hill presumably approved - and pr obably wrote - the author details attached to AOE.

Physics graduate program at Harvard University, and obtaining an EE degree, he began his engineering career at Harvard?s Electronics Design Ce nter."

got a degree from there - and certainly wouldn't have got a graduate degre e. Where he got the EE degree isn't spelled out - Harvard would have been t he likeliest place, and you should be able to get better evidence than I ca n via the Harvard alumni association - but so far your original claim is no t proven, and you seem to be having your usual problems with comprehending the the implications of what you have posted.

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tion - here's a link to the web-page I cut and pasted from.

on the up-take.

As I read the various sources , I think he was a grad student in Chemistry, but then changed to Electronics and got a graduate degree in EE. The Harva rd website says he got a degree from the Graduate School of Arts and Scienc e in '67. Dropping out of Chemistry is not necessarily dropping out of gra duate school.

Kind of like the kid that lived across the hall. As an undergraduate he dr opped out of Engineering and graduated in Physics.

Dan

l Physics graduate program at Harvard University, and obtaining an EE degre e, he began his engineering career at Harvard?s Electronics Design Center."

ve got a degree from there - and certainly wouldn't have got a graduate deg ree. Where he got the EE degree isn't spelled out - Harvard would have been the likeliest place, and you should be able to get better evidence than I can via the Harvard alumni association - but so far your original claim is not proven, and you seem to be having your usual problems with comprehendin g the the implications of what you have posted.

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mation - here's a link to the web-page I cut and pasted from.

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y, but then changed to Electronics and got a graduate degree in EE. The Har vard website says he got a degree from the Graduate School of Arts and Scie nce in '67. Dropping out of Chemistry is not necessarily dropping out of g raduate school.

It's certainly dropping out of one graduate school. If he was then as obvio usly good at electronics as he is now, the Electronics graduate school migh t well have been happy to accept him.

dropped out of Engineering and graduated in Physics.

It's a pity the Harvard website doesn't specify what kind of degree Win got . If I'd wanted to get an EE degree in Melbourne I'd have had to take a bun ch of undergraduates courses in the engineering department to qualify for a bachelors degree. They might have been more flexible about giving me a mas ters degree, but US graduate schools back then did tend to have a lot more course work than their Australian equivalents, in part because the US under

-graduate courses were less demanding.

Australia now puts a lot larger proportion of the population through univer sity education now than it did then, so I've got no idea about the current quality.

It is the same school for Chemistry and Engineering.

Dan

According to that link, Chemical Physics and Electrical Engineering are completely different subject areas. Chemical Physics now offers only the Ph.D., while Electrical Engineering offers M.Sc., M. Eng. and Ph.D.

Precisely what you might understand by "school" isn't evident from the link.

Sloman's just trolling, arguing to argue, about nothing.

You're still smarter, richer, went to a better university, harder-working, and crucially for our collective s.e.d. purposes, you're more fun too. :)

Grins, James Arthur

Gag me with a spoon >:-} ...Jim Thompson

I find Dan's wit amusing, and Sloman's mean-spirited mashed-potato drudgery dull.

But of course, YMMV.

Cheers, James Arthur

I thought you were sarcastically referring to Slowman ;-)

It's still early here... only one cup of coffee. ...Jim Thompson

Sloman reminds me of Bernie, the burnout. :(

ompletely different subject areas. Chemical Physics now offers only the Ph. D., while Electrical Engineering offers M.Sc., M. Eng. and Ph.D.

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Harvard College is a school. Harvard Med School is a school. Harvard Law School is a school. Harvard Business School is a school. Harvard Graduate School for Arts and Science is a school. You can graduate from Harvard C ollege with a degree in English Literature or with a degree in Chemistry. You can graduate from The Graduate School of Arts and Science with a degree in English literature or with a degree in Chemistry.

What is it that you do not understand?

Dan

obviously good at electronics as he is now, the Electronics graduate schoo l might well have been happy to accept him.

Dan's link seemed to lump all the subject areas into one "graduate school". James Arthur presumably didn't go to graduate school so doesn't understand how they work. If you swap subject areas in graduate school - particulary in the US where graduate studies involve a lot of course work - it's a big deal.

If you think he's smarter than I am he's you've got a rather restricted ide a of "smart" - it probably means you both went to the same right-wing de-ed ucation camp, and learned to parrot the same responses to the same kinds of questions, without wasting any time on thinking about what you were saying .

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as obviously good at electronics as he is now, the Electronics graduate sc hool might well have been happy to accept him.

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Dan's wit - if it exists - involves claiming that simple-minded abuse const itutes sarcasm. One can see how it might appeal to you - it's the kind of r hetorical trope that you got taught at right-wing re-education camp - but w it is supposed to be unexpected and original, not mass-produced tripe.

This may be a mean-spirited assertion, but it's hard to hit the higher leve ls of eloquence when the audience is tone-deaf.

So much for James Arthur's reputations as a critic.

I'm flattered - though Berne is a bit more than a year older than I am. James Arthur comes closer to Donald Trump - though James consistently makes the same mistakes, and Trump feels free to get things wrong in different ways from one event to the next.

completely different subject areas. Chemical Physics now offers only the P h.D., while Electrical Engineering offers M.Sc., M. Eng. and Ph.D.

link.

w School is a school. Harvard Business School is a school. Harvard Gradua te School for Arts and Science is a school. You can graduate from Harvard College with a degree in English Literature or with a degree in Chemistry. You can graduate from The Graduate School of Arts and Science with a degr ee in English literature or with a degree in Chemistry.

Most universities call subject areas schools - physics, chemistry, electric al engineering. The fact that Harvard seem to lump all it's graudate studie s into a single "school" doesn't alter the fact that moving from Chemical P hysics to Electrical Engineering is a big step, and involves working with different f aculty members and satisfying different prerequisites and regulations.

Why you think that the fact the Harvard lumps all it's graduate study areas into one school is of any significance. It may be a charming eccentricity, but it's irrelevant to the matter we were discussing.

". James Arthur presumably didn't go to graduate school so doesn't understa nd how they work. If you swap subject areas in graduate school - particular y in the US where graduate studies involve a lot of course work - it's a bi g deal.

Duh. The link I supplied is for one graduate school, the Graduate school o f Arts and Sciences. It is obvious to tho most casual observer ( But not t o Bill ) that it would have all the subject areas that are in that grad sch ool.

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dea of "smart" -

I think he is just judging you by your posts.

Dan

as into one school is of any significance. It may be a charming eccentricit y, but it's irrelevant to the matter we were discussing.

Actually it is spot on. You claimed Winfield dropped out of grad school an d I corrected you. So we were talking about whether Chemistry and Engineer ing were just different department in the same grad school. If you were ha lf as smart as you think you are , you would remember what we were discussi ng. Well I actually think you knew what we were discussing, but wanted to p ost something so you did not look to be wrong.

Dan

That's not unusual. At least when I was in college, all graduate programs, whether engineering, chemistry, or Mongolian literature, were in the "Graduate College". Well, chemistry and Mongolian literature undergraduate programs would have been in the same college, too.

That's a vast subject.

Same as the rest of you remaining in this pointless conversation.