FIR chips

Mar 18, 2012 25 Replies

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afaik the xilinx DLL is basically just string of buffers each with something like 100ps of delay you can tap at different points

it might loose lock and need a reset to relock if you heat it that much, but why should it stop working?

-Lasse

I don't know, Lasse. Maybe leakage affects their operation, but that's just a guess. If you use parts way outside their specs and in small quantities, manufacturers tend not to be interested in such questions.

Cheers

Syd

I'm just looking at MiM caps for a 100MHz fixed frequency oscillator (with initial electronic trim, 4-bits, to account for basic process tolerance), TC=33u, so 0.5% increase from 27° to 180°.

So my guess, if you're having problems, is that it is the CMOS itself... CMOS slo-o-o-ows down at high temperatures.

I did some DLL stuff for Silicon Graphics, Chippewa Falls, WI, wa-a-a-ay back ~1996. Synchronizing 4 separate chips to a master clock. It was rated to 200°C.

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Aha! I had forgotten the tapped buffer delay-line approach. That fails at very hot... can't meet minimum delay... if you're pushing it. ...Jim Thompson

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You mean you've tried on-chip PLLs and DLLs. Perhaps a roll-your-own PLL feeding the FPGA would work.

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if the FPGA gets dog slow at those temps, really isn't much use for fast a clock anyway

-Lasse

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