Hey, I agree that the green movement can be crazy, but there's nothing wrong with more efficient electronics and I don't mind breathing cleaner air either.
If you dismiss everything they do categorically you're just as bad as they are, just pushing with your head through the wall at the other extreme.
On a sunny day (Wed, 17 Oct 2007 11:29:48 +0200) it happened "TheM" wrote in :
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So do, I, but it does not help global warming in my view, not one bit.
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I was saying that Al Gore's arguments to reduce global warming are fake.
The earth will warm up, have a look here, for some REAL science:
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Goto page 42 of the pdf to see where and when the ice was in Europe. US is there too somewhere, great lakes covered with ice.... For the climate cycles that we faced, and will face, see this (scroll to bottom page):
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As to the electronics, I think and hope sanity will keep the standby mode, but down under the Edison bulb will be banned from being sold.... It is so hot there in the outback you know...snif snif. IT IS PUBLIC MANIPULATION TO AVOID FACING THE REAL FACT THAT MILLIONS WILL HAVE TO BE MOVED AS WE ARE JUST A SPECK OF DUST IN THIS UNIVERSE AND NATURE RULES.
Those laws make sense from a purely economical standpoint, as I've pointed out several times already. Unfortunately market mechanisms won't work in these cases, so there is an actual need for legislation. No need to drag in "green" ideas here.
"...the majority of the votes all across FL" is just your wet dream. It never happened. If the Democrats had their way we'd still be recounting, trying to shake yet another "chad" in hopes our turkey will finally win.
Do I care ?:-)
Nonsense. You need to study up on history.
You're the one who should be ashamed... abysmal ignorance of history... and a believer in Gore's tripe.
I'll see you and raise you ten ;-)
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And you're still the ignoramus who hides behind anonymity.
...Jim Thompson
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Agreed. Efficiency is good... carbon "footprints" and credits are for scam artists.
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Everything Gore presents is a lie... is it not?
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Who cares as long as it brings other benefits (clean air, less smog, acid rain) and is not going too far. Efficient electronics are cool, don't you want your laptop to run 2x longer? PV installations and genetically engineered less farting cows are an example of this going too far.
I don't think they'll take away stand-by, but they might require lower stand-by power current. In fact some electronics heats-up considerably in stand-by (just feel the box) meaning its designed poorly.
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Big corporations support BOTH candidates, so don't really care who wins, as they will get their agendas either way. Unions and other SIGs tend to back a single horse (or party) and so do much more to influence an election. QED
OK, it's expensive. I guess the operative question would be, do you propose making some kind of rule against people who can afford it launching manned missions at their own expense?
On a sunny day (Wed, 17 Oct 2007 10:48:04 -0700) it happened Charlie Edmondson wrote in :
Cannot follow your logic, if a corporation supports both candidates it has absolute influence (lobby). In fact the leaders often come from those corporations, and see their job merely as an opportunity to change the law so those corporations can make more profit. See what Bush & Co does, where these people were before they were Whitehousers. And corrupt to the bone of course. For example the corporation that did the fixed voting machines in question vowed loyalty to the Bushists. The corporation that owns much of the media and now even Wall street journal is led by a Reagan fan, republican, Murdoch. With the media under 100% party control, the border between corporation and party becomes vague, and the party or corporation that owns the media DOES influence and make the election, chooses in a way the candidates. America is owned by the corporations, and THEY make policy. So corporations DO care who wins, they want their own people in the top.
This is true. I lived in So. Cal about 20 or so years ago, but moved back to Minnesota for various reasons. At the time, you could tell where LA was by the brown sky over it.
This last time I moved to So. Cal, the one thing that stood out in my mind as I came down from the high desert, is that all I saw was blue sky. My initial thought was, "well, clearly somebody has done _something_ right."
But, you're also right - extremism in anything is generally not a Good Thing. (unless you're talking about Liberty, of course.)
Like they say, "Moderation in everything"; to that I'd add, "including moderation." ;-)
It could be done without laws - it can impact your electric bill, ergo you'll be saving money.
Nobody needs legislation to make them spend less money. (albeit, we really do need some legislation with real teeth in it to make the bureaucrats spend less of _your_ money.)
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