As an engineer, you should understand that the numbers matter, and that absolutist arguments are usually silly. We're not going to eradicate all the mushrooms in the world because they sometimes kill people, but we are going to insist that milk be pasteurized. It's a matter of doing what makes things better at an affordable cost.
If you're so unhappy with life, why are you still around?
John
Like a strained relationship; like kids associating torture with sexual arousal; like getting fired.
Brain rot, body rot, bad grades, compulsive desire to purchase food processors and air fresheners.
Yes, I can see that.
John
Cancer is a serious health problem, so therefore we should do nothing about it, because existing efforts have not solved the problem; is that your logic?
If the heroin supply were unrestricted, do you think consumption and social harm would drop?
It would be interesting to legalize public sale of heroin and speed. Sellers would be regulated and taxed, just like for milk and paper clips, and would be available for civil lawsuits for any harm that their products might cause to consumers.
John
Don't usually respond to your threads, Kevin. Usually because of lack of specific knowledge to defend myself.
On this topic (p*rn etc. wrecking lives), got to think you have it about perfectly summed up. Even those without without acceptance of your grand philosophies; any sensible person should see the truth in this.
Uhmm... In parallel with the disfunctional discussion... It should be mentioned that life is also the most positive experience anyone can have and allowing a new born into the world also gives the opportunity to experience all the joy, satisfaction, sense of accomplishment, connectivity, (should I mention love) etc. too.
The crime associated with dopesters needing to raise money for their habit should drop.
I'd make it freely available _at_cost_ from drug stores.
...Jim Thompson
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I love to cook with wine. Sometimes I even put it in the food.
But many more dopsters might be created. Neither of us know the overall slope of that curve.
I doubt that many drug stores would elect to sell it. Of course, Barbara Boxer would pass a law requiring them to sell it.
John
Or Feinstein or Pelosi or ...
How did California get so Californicated ?:-)
...Jim Thompson
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Because America was populated by the most restless and unmanagable people from all over the world, and California was populated by the most restless and unmanagable of them.
That's why I'm here.
John
Of course.
Without "life", i.e. consciousness, there can be no experience at all.
Kevin Aylward snipped-for-privacy@anasoft.co.uk
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In what way does some junkie getting zonked out in the privacy of his home impact "public health?"
If you're talking about paying his medical bills, the problem there is socialism.
Thanks, Rich
Of course. That little fact has been demonstrated quite well, thank you.
But, since you seem to be of the "People are children, therefore it is my responsibility to force them to behave according to my personal moral standards" school of statism, there's probably not much use in continuing to attempt to enlighten you.
Thanks, Rich
Heck, even restrict it to grown-ups, like they do with tobacco and alcohol.
Cheers! Rich
Jim, you should be the first to recognize that it's because California is on the Left coast. ;-)
Cheers! Rich
"Might be"? Take a look at The Netherlands.
Just to get specific - if drugs were suddenly legal, would you feel yourself compelled to go out and become a junkie? Can you name one person who doesn't do drugs now, who would suddenly become a junkie if the prohibition were ended? Are you saying that you believe most people are so weak-willed that they're incapable of using common sense unless their every act is mandated by some authority?
Thanks anyway, I'll take Liberty, risks and all.
Cheers! Rich
He can't help it - it's a Meme. ;-P
-- Cheers! Rich ------ "Christianity has not been tried and found wanting; it has been found difficult and not tried." -- G. K. Chesterton
Ban the things that do a lot more harm than they do good. One of the mandates of government is "to promote the public good." What's wrong with that?
John
Every vice I have is really innocuous, so I shouldn't be taxed.
Now, you, on the other hand, do things of which I do not approve, so you should be taxed accordingly.
And, if you're a Democrat, all fees and taxes should be doubled ;-)
...Jim Thompson
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I love to cook with wine. Sometimes I even put it in the food.
All that e-mail about penis enlargement* is actually secret al Qaida communications.
(If we can get them to believe this, then maybe the homeland security folks will start to chase the spammers off the net.)
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Yep. Phoenix is somewhat of a retirement community. You should see all the letters to the newspaper from the ol' folk, saying in unison, to "save" social security, just raise the maximum income level that is taxed. I don't know where they get off thinking they're entitled to a bigger piece of me, just because I EARN more.
Of course, in August (65 years + 6 months), I'm entitled to start receiving Social Security payments. I intend to take them. Not worth the powder to blow 'em to hell, but I'll take 'em ;-)
I'm continuously getting crap snail mail from AARP. I just sent some back today, scrawled across with, "I may be old, but I ain't senile" ;-)
...Jim Thompson
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I love to cook with wine. Sometimes I even put it in the food.
I read in sci.electronics.design that John Larkin wrote (in ) about 'Court authorized wiretaps in the U.S. surged last year', on Tue, 3 May 2005:
Those measures are effective.
That measure is not effective; witness the 'serious public health problem'.
If there *were* an effective way of stopping drug abuse, it would be worth debating whether to implement it or leave people to do as they wish. What *clearly* can't be sensible is to waste gigabucks on
*ineffective* measures.-- Regards, John Woodgate, OOO - Own Opinions Only. There are two sides to every question, except 'What is a Moebius strip?' http://www.jmwa.demon.co.uk Also see http://www.isce.org.uk
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