Common cleaning sponge found to release trillions of microplastic fibers

Apr 18, 2026 Last reply: 5 months ago 92 Replies

An easy allegation to make, harder to prove. Specialists tend to have rather narrow interests, and governments have to cover the whole spectrum. Other specialists are likely to complain if the ones with government connections start feathering their own nests.

You don't seem to have much of it, and you do seem to be reluctant to recognise it when you do run into it.

Channeling the pointed-headed boss?

You're very selective in your choice of reading material.

It used to take a world war or two to produce tar balls on the beaches. Today it's 'normal'.

Bottlenose dolphins are reported to be back up to 40% in numbers, with 65% of previous body weight - but not by the Deepwater Horizon NRDA . . .

As of 2024, the Deepwater Horizon NRDA was still just setting up a data collection structure to deal with cetacean health recording and analysis. . .

I'm guessing that progress hasn't sped up much under the new administration.

DH was in, what? 2010?

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Not a bit. I read all sorts of stuff.

In many places, it's been normal for millions of years. There just weren't many greenies around to shriek about it.

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Dilbert.

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But it does seem to included a lot of climate change denial propaganda.

There was your recent quote from Breitbart the made the film "the Day after Tomorrow" about a new ice age, rather than a re-run of the Younger Dryas.

The ones that showed up Sydney's beaches recently weren't in the least normal. It took a bit of forensic chemisty to find where they were coming from, and the answer was from the sewage system - not from regular use, but when sudden torrential downpours overloaded the sewage collection system, And some unprocessed stuff ended up getting washed out to sea and washed back up onto the beaches.

We've actually been reworking the storm water system to stop that happening in recent years, but global warming has made torrential downfalls more common at a faster rate than the storm water system, was getting cleaned up.

It wasn't the greenies who were doing the shrieking, but tourism businesses.

I don't think I've ever read a book about that. Sounds boring.

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1973 looks like the wettest year. "The big dry" was early 2000's.

Late 1800s were pretty wet.

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It's not the annual rainfall that matters, but how much rain falls in a couple of hours. "Torrential" rain fills up drainage channels and creeks, and floods everything.

Global warming means more water vapour in the atmosphere, and if it all happens to fall out of the atmosphere in a hurry you've got higher peak run-off than you were used to.

The link you posted can give you that information, if you ask for it, but such flooding can be very local.

I know about our local storm water system because our local streets are quite steep and several of them got severely dug up a few years ago when the storm water run-off got separated from the sewage system. The roads weren't closed but there'd be a twenty foot deep trench down one side of the road for couple of weeks.

That sounds like a political problem, poor infrastructure maintenance.

We have hills here that funnel rainfall into low spots, like the end of Cayuga Avenue and a low spot on 17th st. Rainfall is variable everywhere.

The trick is to keep all the local street drains clear and working so the funnel effect doesn't happen.

Naturally the politicians blame climate change.

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That wasn't the problem. It was more poor system design about a century ago, and hadn't mattered until global warming dumped that bit of extra water into the drains and exposed the orginal design flaw.

It gets more variable where local temperatures are higher - warm air holds more water until it decides not to.

Huh? If the water falls into the area, it's going to end up in the lowest lying areas, and flow through them to the sea (eventually - my flat looks out of Sydney Harbour so the sea is pretty local around here).

It is what's made the problem worse in recent years - or a least more frequently noticeable.

If the surrounding areas are properly drained, not much water will collect in the low spots. We get our first seasonal rains around November, and if the local drains are full of leaves and trash the water keeps going downhill.

The cars, on the slick streets, keep going downhill too.

Yes, the politicians keep getting worse.

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They do keep on funding the scientists who keep on collecting the evidence. Donald Trump does seem to be an exception - he does try to de-fund people who observe results he doesn't like. He's not all that enthusiastic about it - like you he doesn't find it difficult to ignore results he doesn't like.

AFAIK this is wrong. About 5% (or possibly more) US citizens have no voting rights. Some lost voting rights due to criminal conviction, some who lost their rights should have them restored, but can not afford financial cost of the procedure.

As a comparison, in my country there are voting stations in prisons: prisoners have voting rights and since they are not allowed to go outside voting stations for them are inside.

BTW: Many elections in USA are decided by tiny margin. 5% citizens with no voting rights is a serious distortion.

It certainly wasn't originally true. When the US constitution was written voting rights were under the control of the individual states.

https://en.wikipedia/wiki/Timeline_of_voting_rights_in_the_United_States The process of getting to universal suffrage took a while, and doesn't seem to be completely accepted even now.

The Australian constitution is a much more recent document.

In Australia you lose your right to vote while you are in prison if you have been sentenced to prison for a term longer than three years. There was an attempt to disenfranchise all prisoners in 2006, but it got reversed in the high court in 2007.

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Gerrymandering is probably a more serious problem. Somebody setting up gerrymandered electoral boundaries wants their party to win ans many electorates as possible by the smallest possible margin, while the other party will have huge winning margins in the few electorate where they do win.

If lots of electorate are won by tiny margins, one has to suspect gerrymandering.

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