Chinese semiconductors
Jun 18, 2024
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Good grief. Crazy numbers.
There's a surprisingly common perception that "everything electronic is made in China" vs. the reality that China's semiconductor industry is
5-10 years behind the curve and for most every product with the word "CPU" or "GPU" in it they have a vanishingly small piece of the market.
Making the semiconductors is a relatively small part of the whole process of producing cheap electronic devices.
10,000 bankruptcies representing only 1 in 5 start-ups for the year.
Sounds like a normal ratio.
RL
The idea of any country "registering" 50,000 semiconductor companies in one year is absurd. It's the same corrupt fad dynamics as the Chinese real-estate scam.
Communism always becomes savage and corrupt and inefficient. It's really the wrong environment for inventing and developing electronics. The US has lots of started-small innovative tech companies, some of which are world-dominant now. I see a some of that in the UK and Ireland and a bit in France and the Netherlands.
The sequence matters. Some outfits start with ideas and eventually make a lot of money. Some start with a heap of invested money, have no original ideas, and fail.
Hey, we have an aphorism:
Ideas create money, but money doesn't create ideas.
Airbus planes have killed people too.
The two nasty 737 crashes were a combination of bad control system desgn and bad piloting, not things falling apart.
How are your Russian lessons coming along?
Jan is right about the propensity of the US to go into unnecessary and unjustifiable conflicts around the world, though. Vast sums of money squandered on these ridiculous and ultimately futile escapades. Just think what all that cash could have been better spent on. Those roads and bridges could use a bit of attention!
The youtube channel asianomerty, did a bit on China fabs a few years ago. Same spiel, lots of investments and bankruptcy. Even trying to steal tmsc engineers.
Cheers
We should have stayed out of WWI and WWII. The history of europe is millenia of warfare. We should stay out of the current one too.
Another feature of communist countries is to steal ideas and industries [1]. I think the culture discourages local invention and especially risk taking and, ultimately, success.
The stealing is institutionalized, which doesn't work well.
[1] and territory.+1. This is what Trump is arguing for and I believe an awful lot of people will find it *very* persuasive.
I wonder what the world would be like today if Germany and Italy and Japan had won.
Globalist-free.
Exactly. With all the add-on benefits which come with that, like concentration camps, everyone obediently waiting in line for anything until the approval of some official - oh, and for those who dare to stray a little there are always the gas chambers.
A good starting point for all the flat-earthers who invariably are attracted to criminals like Putin, fatboy Kim etc. is to comprehend the fact that the Earth *is a globe*.
And the owners and upper management al fled to the West with their kids and millions in the bank.
We shouldn't let them.
Nobody ever adopted it, and there's rather too much around to make practical to use it as a currency.
Money is just an abstraction, invented to serve a medium of exchange. Using lumps of rare metals as the medium of exchange made it more difficult for people to cheat, but block-chains serve the same purpose.
We need governments with enough sense to see it that way - not that there's much chance of that.
-- Bill Sloman, Sydney
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