Change-over to enewable energy

Looks like the coward option, then.

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Wrong. And here's a report of a very simple model that captures a lot of cloud complexity from this month's Physics Today

You really don't have clue.

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-- Cheers, James Arthur

"Equations inspired by population-dynamics theory MAY help explain drizzles, downpours, and disappearing clouds."

"Although clouds=92 complex dynamics affect long-term climate trends=97 they play a part in determining Earth=92s albedo and rainfall distribution=97most climate models gloss over them."

Hilarious.

James Arthur

Keep dreaming.

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Lets get a reality check here. No 3rd world country is going to even contemplate instituting a plan that costs trillions.

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Third world countries don't need trillions of dollars worth of power planet, and aren't responsible for any significant portion of the CO2 we are injecting itno the atmosphere. Once the first world has worked out how to build renewable energy generators in volume and got the price down by the usual economies of scale, the third world will do their usual trick of taking advantage of the pioneering work done elsewhere.

Third world countries aren't enthusiastic about having to import steadily more expensive fossil carbon to keep their power plants running. Give them an alternative and they will go for it.

-- Bill Sloman, Nijmegen

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"The movements split when the USSR collapsed and China turned to capitalism, surging ahead of its former rivals."

generates zero hits. Unsurprisingly, since it is nonsense, and only comical if you know enough to appreciate the difference between the current Chinese politcal system and full-blown capitalism.

-- Bill Sloman, Nijmegen

Hypothesising plausible motives for your behaviour isn't dreaming. You won't be provoked into providing further information, so you are clearly happy to live with the situation where characterisation as a cautious ignoramus is plausible, and don't want to run the risk of providing evidence that might further confirm this point of view.

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You're so literal it's amazing. I thought I gave a pretty good hint directly under the passage in question.

Here-- "The distinguishing feature of communism is not the abolition of property generally, but the abolition of bourgeois property."

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I'd have thought you'd recognize it instantly, without the prodding.

-- Cheers, James Arthur

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Summary New technology that combines production of electricity with capture of carbon dioxide could make billions of barrels of oil shale ? now regarded as off-limits because of the huge amounts of carbon dioxide released in its production ? available as an energy source. That?s the conclusion of a report on ?electricity production with in situ carbon capture? (EPICC) in ACS? journal Energy & Fuels.

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Seems a darn sight better idea than wind, solar or biofuel.

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I've yet to be convinced that these alt power sources will prove cheaper than coal etc when mass produced.

NT

Whatever you want to believe. =A0Keep dreaming. I do not have any need to be validated by you. Reading your posts is a humorous diversion, they are not anything to be taken seriously.

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Seen the costs? Carbon capture is expensive.

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There's a finite - if large - amount of coal in the ground. The deeper we have to dig, the more expensive it gets. In the long term, it's a no-brainer.

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Strange as it may seem, I'm not all that familiar with the communist manifesto. It isn't as if what Marx cobbled together in 1848 is the final word on socialist ideology, and Marx himself, while a towering genius, was not known for getting the details right. He's more like Linus Pauling than - say - Richard Feynman.

Teh manifesto certainly doesn't have a lot to do with modern communism, which split off from mainstream socialism around 1889 on the question of the "leading role of the party", which most socialist regarded as a dangerous diversion from democratic principles.

The "Communist Manifesto" certainly doesn't have much to do with the kind of communism American rightist use to frighten each other. Russian Communism seems to have adopted the name to emphasise their descent from Marx, but the kind of communism Marx was contemplating in

1848 had more to do with communes than the union of the soviet socialist republics.

As usual, your "joke" reflects a very imperfect understanding of the material you thought that you were joking about.

-- Bill Sloman, Nijmegen

You do seem to feel the need for some kind of validation - this ping- pong has been going on for quite a while if it's just of sense of humour that's involved.

-- Bill Sloman, Nijmegen=A0

Sorry but validation from you would be most upsetting to me.

Dan

The truth is that warmingists are simply last generation's communists using other means. Of course you knew that.

You've never seen a nuke's cooling lake? ...except that the fish *love* 'em.