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Actually it was the difficulty of counting the popular vote that was the or iginal reason for adopting the electoral college system. Back in the 18th c entury when a lot of the country was backwater frontier , roads were mud ho les, and everything went really, really slowly, the electoral voting system was the only way to conclude the election in a timely manner. The electors were empowered to throw their vote based on their personal perception of h ow the popular vote was going in their district, they didn't need to actual ly count anything. There was probably a good chance the counts were corrupt ed too, people were even more unscrupulous back then. The way things are now, what with the ignorance level of the voters and all the lying politicians, the less people that vote the better. The much vaun ted "founding fathers" of this country are spinning in their graves over th e kinds of people entitled to vote these days. They would never have allowe d it.

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Oh, I don't know about that at all. The poor have always been with us. Our founderd were not poor.

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Joe Gwinn

It's impossible to eliminate the electoral college in favor of a popular vote. The small states would never sign up, and 3/4 of the states would have to.

It's even unlikely that it would ever be passed to them to vote on. It would take 2/3 votes in both houses of Congress.

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jlarkin

Wrong on two counts. Firstly, she's Catholic. Second, the Constitution is a work document, not a religion, to a law worker. No judge should confuse those two things. Don't expect Roe vs. Wade to go away, or find any "conservative" character in a legal decision. Law doesn't honor popular stereotypes, nor fit them.

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original reason for adopting the electoral college system. Back in the 18t h century when a lot of the country was backwater frontier , roads were mud holes, and everything went really, really slowly, the electoral voting sys tem was the only way to conclude the election in a timely manner. The elect ors were empowered to throw their vote based on their personal perception o f how the popular vote was going in their district, they didn't need to act ually count anything. There was probably a good chance the counts were corr upted too, people were even more unscrupulous back then.

all the lying politicians, the less people that vote the better. The much v aunted "founding fathers" of this country are spinning in their graves over the kinds of people entitled to vote these days. They would never have all owed it.

That doesn't make it impossible, merely difficult. After Dubbya and Trump, the perception that minority presidents are a bad idea may be accepted by e nough people to make it relatively easy.

uld take 2/3 votes in both houses of Congress.

Once Trump starts getting prosecuted for his crimes, this may became less i mprobable.

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Bill Sloman

That's a lie. Oft-repeated, but false.

(Which is a testament to the media, and not favorable.)

Cheers, James Arthur

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Trump did say that there were "very fine people" on both sides at the event, and one of those sides included white supremacists. It was one of them who drove his car into a bunch of protestors, killing one of them.

James Arthur thinks that anything he doesn't like is "a lie". He's not all that scrupulous about using the word.

Depends whose support you are trying to buy.

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another black president- don't get in their way- they're heading to the pol ls big time and with determination. If they lose the election, which they w on't, expect more riots.

e him out, which they will do because a lot of them are disgusted by his cr assness. These people are voting Trump out and not big fans of voting Biden in. The minority participation simply relieves the burden on the white Ame ricans needed to vote him out.

LOL! So you are predicting that Biden will win with, at least, 345 electora l votes. I haven't heard any of even the MOST leftist polls predicting that . I take that back, Princeton is predicting a 351 vote for Biden.

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people are electing Kamala Harris president.

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t another black president- don't get in their way- they're heading to the p olls big time and with determination. If they lose the election, which they won't, expect more riots.

ote him out, which they will do because a lot of them are disgusted by his crassness. These people are voting Trump out and not big fans of voting Bid en in. The minority participation simply relieves the burden on the white A mericans needed to vote him out.

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Flyguy

Do you mean like Obummer?

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Flyguy

Obama's father was an interesting person, but he was divorced from Obama's mother when Obama was about two years old, and died when Obama was 21, and he doesn't seem to have left Obama an money at all - certainly not any hundreds of millions of dollars.

Flyguy has some funny ideas.

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people are electing Kamala Harris president.

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That's the first time I have heard that. You just don't convince a bunch of farmers to fight for elitists (although that is what the Dims are doing to day). Here is the reality:

The American Enlightenment was a critical precursor of the American Revolut ion. Chief among the ideas of the American Enlightenment were the concepts of natural law, natural rights, consent of the governed, individualism, pro perty rights, self-ownership, self-determination, liberalism, republicanism , and defense against corruption. A growing number of American colonists em braced these views and fostered an intellectual environment which led to a new sense of political and social identity.

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It's an American exceptionalist point of view. You need to read up on the R adical Enlightenment, which Jonathon Israel traces back to Spinoza. What th e Wikipedia article calls the American Enlightenment was part of that. The people who wrote the US constitution were followers of the Moderate Enlight enment, articulated by Locke amongst others, which found Spinoza and the Fr ench encyclopediasts a bit too radical for their taste, and toned it all do wn far enough to let the rich and powerful feel comfortable about screwing over everybody else, provided they didn't do it too ostentatiously.

People like Benjamin Franklin and Thomas Paine weren't convinced, but they didn't have enough money or political power to have a say, once the revolut ionary war had been won, and the masses didn't need to be motivated any mor e.

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And the American enlightment was heavily influenced by the Scottish Protestant enlightment. Very different from the French Catholic version. Very different results too.

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jlarkin

Attacking the whole world in all directions wasn't a good long-term strategy.

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It wasn't what they thought that they were doing.

When they attacked Russia, they thought what you thought - that Soviet Russ ia was badly run. They also thought that the Russians were racially inferi or Slavs.

The initial invasion was remarkably successful - Stalin had made a mess of the Russian Army for political reasons. Stalin may have been a sociopath, b ut he wasn't silly enough to damage the Russian Army when he needed it, and it rapidly got the resources it needed. Rational people were scared of dis agreeing with Stalin, but they were also scared to what a successful German invasion might do, and Stalin got to hear more honest advice than he did b efore the war, and acted on it.

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It wasn't the Russian winter that ended up occupying Berlin. The battles o n the eastern front ran from 22 June 1941 to 9 May 1945. That's four winte rs, and three intervening summers.

You seem be stupid enough to think that you can trot out fatuous platitudes and expect to be taken seriously, and you are obviously too stupid to lear n that you really shouldn't bother.

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Bill Sloman

It is up to the states to decide how their electors vote, and Democrats can find a way to force the electors to vote the way the popular vote goes.

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Tom Del Rosso

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