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Re: HEPA filter face mask

> >>> One Amazon review says that it does not stop glasses from fogging. I

>>> would >>> have thought that continuous air flow would prevent that. What's your >>> experience? >>> >>> Foggy glasses are getting to be a real problem for me. >> >> The top edge of the mask must be "fitted" to the contour of your face. >> This is usually accomplished with a semi-rigid metallic strip along the >> top edge (though most folks are ignorant of how to fit it). >> >> In a medical environment, an adhesive layer would be in place to >> seal that gap (cuz your face's contours don't fit the "stretched" >> mask's shape). >> >> You should be exhaling through the fabric of the mask, not out the >> over-the-ears surgical masks don't fit anywhere snug enough. >> >> Vented N95 masks make this easier -- and are *ineffective* for the >> current motivation for masking (medical facilities, here, will >> not allow you into the building wearing such a vented mask) >> >> [But, they're good if you're wearing one to spray paint an item!] > > If you had a child working on dental patients, would you want one of > these to protect your _child from_ all the patients or > > a non positive air flow unit to protect the _patients from your child_? >

If you've got a dental clinic open for non emergency work during a respiratiory tract pandemic and child labour you've aready got worse ethical problems.

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Jasen Betts
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I assumed child meant ADULT child (young children don't often "work on dental patients").

It's been ~9 months, now. How long do you imagine folks can go without routine dental care? I've been for two cleanings/exams under these conditions. But, most medical services, here, are erring on the side of extra precautions instead of playing free and loose.

The same holds for other medical services; do you stop radiation therapies? Chemo? Surgeries? Instead, you make intelligent decisions about what you can gain significant benefit from to offset potential risks ("No, Gloria, that boob-job/tummy-tuck can wait!").

[Many of our hospitals took a significant financial hit when elective procedures were suspended.]

What I find amusing is how our goobernor came to the conclusion that hair/nail salons were "essential businesses". Really? Did he think folks couldn't survive without a hair cut or manicure??? It's doubly amusing to see how few people have actually taken advantage of that "essential service" (evidenced by the amount of "bad hair" and "chipped nail polish" that you see).

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Don Y

Jusdging from the title that's not what it is claiming.

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Jasen Betts

The VA requires you to stand six feet from the window. It's not fun trying to get your appointment sheets that way.

I haven't been to a barber for about 20 years. I cut it, myself About every three months, I cut it to a burr..

Snake eyes! :)

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Michael Terrell

I think the "experts" have done a piss poor job of explaining risk factors to people. Viral particles accumulate in the soon-to-be-potentially-infected. The trick is to be able to clear those that have tried to set up shop BEFORE enough can get a foothold to overpower your current state of defenses.

So, a momentary (noncontact) interaction is far less risky than an hour of speaking six feet apart!

[I also recall noticing video footage of a subway(?) interior in some asian country. The iconography/graphic on the wall obviously indicating "keep your distance". But, the distance cited was *5* meters (for a cough)! Perhaps another reason we can't seem to get things under control with our 6 ft (2m) separations?]

I suspect this is a cause of many of our new local infections. People have stumbled on the idea that "everything is OK" as long as you are out-of-doors. So, I watch a neighbor have groups of family over for 4 hour soirees, three times in the last week. No masks but 6 feet between them. And, of course, they talk (think "project"!) considerably louder as they now have to cast their voices (aerosol particles) over longer distances.

And, many take license to leave their masks off using the excuse that they are eating, smoking, etc. One of the local casinos advertises that their staff will ask you to replace your mask if they notice it off longer than necessary. And, you *may* be asked to leave (I guess a lot will depend on whether you are currently winning or losing! :> )

Much longer, for me. But, I just let it grow (until it "breaks" and falls off)

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Don Y

It might be different if the 'experts' agreed, and didn't keep changing their minds.

I had to go to a funeral for one of my uncles Both of us were Army Veterans, and still kept our hair short. Being in Florida would remind you to keep it cut when sweat started running into your eyes.

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Michael Terrell

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Next summer I might get a buzz cut and let it grow out again. Or maybe I'l l do the Telly Savalas thing? "Who Loves Ya Baby?"

I've been growing a beard (I mean a full one like Santa) since the first of the year. Not so much fun in the summer when it's hot. Might shave that off too. The 'stash stays though.

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Ricketty C

I think people cherry-pick what they want the truth to be. A neighbor is convinced the pandemic will "go away" on Nov 4th -- as if it is a manufactured thing tied to our politics.

[He doesn't seem to have an explanation for its existence in the rest of the world! I guess part of some GLOBAL conspiracy?? Maybe a "mask cabal" that is trying to corner the market on PPE?? ]

I'm keen on not letting others control my appearance (lifestyle, schedule, beliefs, etc.). I figure good hygiene is important but how I wear my hair, whether or not I choose to shave on a given day or the number of holes in my jeans is a problem THEY have, not me.

It's hot here (110 days above 100F this year). And, humid during Monsoon. But, hair doesn't seem to make a meaningful difference in my comfort level.

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Don Y

I wonder to what extent the close cut hair thing is carried. The forehead isn't the only thing that sweats.

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