Audio to MP3...

I don't know if any MP3 players have record facilities, but if you can't find one, you can record on to your PC (Your sound card may have come with suitable software, otherwise Audacity is good and free), and card readers are now pretty cheap - my local library has them for £10.

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You should be able the find an MP3 player which can record.

Hi Roy,

I have a Creative Zen Nano, which has line input recording facilies, which I have used to record radio programs to listen to later. Its a bit fiddly as the screen/interface is OK for those with macro vision. It is worth looking at the creative line as they make some newer models with better screens etc

you can download the radio program in mp3 format already, just buy a cheap mp3 player at your local discount store.

The program below is a timer/recorder.

You can connect a radio to the audio input of your computer and it will record at the times you have set. Read through the page to get all details, there is need for another (listed) program to convert to mp3 format (on the fly). But as someone said, it is already online in mp3 format, that maybe easier. Mike

Better is relative

I use a computer and CDex to convert wave files (the computer recorder format) into mp3's. It will also handle OogVorbis and some other formats.

For the player I have a cheap $15 player that accepts SD cards. One card sits in a USB holder that makes it a USB flash drive - that one is sucking down music while the other one is in the player.

512 Mb SD cards are down around $4 - $10 and 1 GB cards are $7 - $20

Project Gutenberg is putting a lot of material in mp3 and ogg format and my wife likes to listen to the audio books. Now I'm looking for a converter for speex (spx extension - speech quality) to use with Gutenberg.

CD ripping software (to convert audio CD to mp3) used to go through an intermediate stage: CDDA to WAV to MP3 - many "ripping" programs also provide file conversion today. The really old ripping programs converted to wave files then it was up to the op to use another converter to turn that into mp3.

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Do you have a computer? If yes, what kind?

Do a Google search for "audio editor." Many are available, and some are free.

I recently set up my son-in-law to convert his record collection to MP3, and records are only a little more complex than tapes, because the editor for records needs an RIAA equalizer. For your tapes you just need to play them back on a compatible player; Metal tape, etc.

After that it's up to you for whether you save the file after each tune, or after a dozen tunes. If the latter, you can always load the file into the editor and save each tune separately if you want. There is no degradation to the MP3 in doing this.

Have fun.

Don

Don

One last thought........ The iTunes software is FREE, and available for PC and Mac, and you can dowload it from Apple. It is a great way to organize your music and play it with your computer. You do not need to use any of it's other features.

Don

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Do it direct: Xitel Inport

Line-In to USB out.

Record to wav, encode with any mp3 encoder (literally thousands of front ends and encoder combinations)

Write to whatever media you wish: CD, SD/MMC...

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Wow, someone ACTUALLY recommending iTunes... I guess there's a first for everything.

I've had (and heard) nothing but complaints about iTunes from all my mates.

Anyway, don't you have to have an iPod if you want to upload files from iTunes or does it interface with any mp3 player these days?

niftydog

Many people badmouth things in their ignorance. You do not need an iPod to use iTunes, but you cannot download from iTunes to a non-iPod.

But every music file that show up in iTunes, exists in a set of folders that you can use however you want.

I probably listen to more music in my computer using iTunes rather than listening to my iPod. As I said, iTunes is a good tool for organizing your music. But also it will rip your CDs for you, burn CDs for you, change formats to and from AAC, MP3, etc.

So what is it about iTunes your buds don't like?

Don

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... Roy,

I also like to listen to the BBC programs but since I live in California (I'm originally from England) I can't receive the programs directly.

The BBC does not make many programs downloadable but most are available live from their website or from from their "Listen Again" page at:

I play back the programs from the web site and capture them using the virtual soundcard program TotalRecorder (from High Criteria), a similar one called Messer is available for free

As the program plays it creates an MP3 file. This MP3 file can then be downloaded to an MP3 player (or put onto a CD etc).

I edit the programs where necessary either using the built-in facilities of TotalRecorder or using MP3DirectCut (free).

For speech (plays, comedy programs etc) I use 32kbits/sec with 22.05KHz sampling mono. This takes about 15MB/hour of recording so a 1GB MP3 player can store ~65Hours of programs. The BBC streams their material using RealAudio (not MP3) at about 44Kbits/sec. Usually the quality is quite adequate.

kevin

True enough, but these are first hand accounts.

Well, two recent cases, these are as related to me, I have no first hand experience myself so I'm not ruling out finger trouble!

Mates daughter buys iPod, installs iTunes, fills it up with music, all's good. Daughter figures "don't need this anymore" and deletes the library... stupid I know. Next time she plugs in the iPod it assumes you want to synchronise and promptly deletes everything from the iPod without giving you a choice.

Different mate buys iPod for son, son installs iTunes, fills it up. Next day, PC dies. Mate cobbles together another PC. Son hooks up iPod, iTunes refuses to do anything with it because it's not the original iTunes library that is associated with that iPod.

Personally I just hate the whole copyright issue, and it's not entirely directed at iTunes. I have a Sony HiMD and it's gotten me hot under the collar more than once.

Every time a big corporation like Apple or Sony takes away some of the flexibility of systems like this people get incredibly angry... and yet they STILL buy the stuff like the zombies they are.

Mostly I just hate that the majority of honest people suffer because of the minority of dishonest people. Happens to me almost everyday in one way or another.

niftydog

Late at night, by candle light, "Roy Hammond" penned this immortal opus:

If you can connect the source to the computer's sound card grab Audacity from sourceforge. Copy the mp3 to the player after conversion.

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It should not be forgotten that copyrights should be granted to corporations by the public under conditions that the public decides and not by politicians depending on the bribes the politicians receive.

IMO every extension of copyright should be accompanied by ever increasing license fees which could go to the public purse for socially beneficial purposes. If Disney wants to copyright Mickey for eternity they should be prepared to pay for the privilege.

How about the Edirol R-9?

It's a recorder and a player. Not as cute as the ipod nano or shuffle, but portable and self contained.

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Yes, unfortunate, but how often has someone accidently trashed a critical piece of System software and the had to reinstall the System?

The iPod Library proble, however, is very easily fixed: 1. Turn on iTunes and move it to one side. 2. Find the iPod music folder. 3. Being careful (very), drag the folder to the iTunes window that is headed Title, Album, Artist, etc, (the BIG window), and drop it. It will NOT actually move the folder, but it Will rebuild the Library.

This, too has a simple fix. As I recall, you just reset the iPod and then plug it into the new computer. Lots of kids do this. BUT, first, be sure the iTunes options for iPods are set.

I don't see any copuright issues in the above "problems."

What did Apple take away? Anyone who does something wrong with piece of hardware or software will need to overcome it.

The only issue you might be talking about here is Apple's use of the MP4 format to mark purchased music, preventing playing it on any computer other than the four that the purchaser can authorize or de-authorize at will, So what's the big problem?

For what it's worth, it is sooooooo simple to undo the "theft protection." My backup files of purchased music are straight MP3, but I still won't swap them, I do the conversion, because if the HD bombs, I will lose the music receipts and I don't want that hassle.

Don

That assumes you still HAVE the library! I know it's stupid to go deleting files, but that's not the crux of the matter. The real issue was that iTunes gave them no option before it merrily deleted the files from the iPod.

Seems unnecessarily complicated don't you think?

I didn't link that comment with the stories I was relating, that's why I said "Personally..."

You cannot deny that they are limiting the use of purchased music. Such restrictions didn't exist until recently.

I hardly think that having your PC suddenly die on you could be considered doing "something wrong with a piece of hardware." Do you?

The problem is that you are forced to take extra steps in order to be "allowed" to do what you used to do at will. Fair and reasonable use of purchased music should not be punished or put beyond the reach of basic users.

...for you, but my Dad, for instance, would have no hope of knowing how to go about doing the same, and the same goes for my mates 8 year old son. In fact until you told me I wouldn't have had a clue about any of this stuff either, and I consider myself very tech savvy!

That's exactly what I'm talking about; It puts a once simple technology beyond the reach of basic users. It forces knowledgeable users like yourself to create ways of circumventing the flaws and "safety netting" the data. It shouldn't have to be like this, but you no longer have the choice.

niftydog

You didn't read what I wrote. I agree the "Library" is GONE. A "Library" represents the music files, but it is NOT the music files. What I said was, find the folder containing the music files and drag and drop the folder on the iTunes main window. That will permit iTunes to make a new Library, Very simple,

No, I don't. Kids do it all the time.

The MP4 restriction has been there from the beginning.

Certainly not, if you clip my post to leave only your biased comment.

Let me plant a thought in your mind......Don't Buy Your Music From The Apple Music Store. You will be happier and we won't miss the business a whole lot in their financials.

You can still do whatever you want with all your non-MP4 music. Itunes and iPods are not just for music bought at the Apple store. Most of mine is music ripped in from CDs I've collected, records I imported, etc,