?Archived? heat has reached deep into the Arctic interior

I am reminded of my youth, when I went to summer camp in Mississippi, and people sat around the campfire at night, competing to tell the scariest story.

The prizes are bigger now.

at content over the past 30 years, the researchers said. They traced the so urce to waters hundreds of miles to the south, where reduced sea ice has le ft the surface ocean more exposed to summer solar warming.

The 'prize' now is poor fishing in northern waters; what was it at your sum mer camp, poison ivy? Did you win?

Alaskan halibut harvest in each of the last seven years was below the lowes t recorded level for the previous quarter century. That's a few dozen millions of d ollars a year (and it's not the world figures, just Alaska).

at content over the past 30 years, the researchers said. They traced the so urce to waters hundreds of miles to the south, where reduced sea ice has le ft the surface ocean more exposed to summer solar warming. In turn, Arctic winds are driving the warmer water north, but below the surface waters.

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ic circle this year.

Well there is an impending methane release in the ESAS (eastern siberia arc tic shelf) that's about to blow due to loss of its ice cap. And this releas e will contain enough energy to blow the entire state of Texas clear to the moon, or so they say, I would have to see it to believe it.

heat content over the past 30 years, the researchers said. They traced the source to waters hundreds of miles to the south, where reduced sea ice has left the surface ocean more exposed to summer solar warming. In turn, Arcti c winds are driving the warmer water north, but below the surface waters.

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rctic shelf) that's about to blow due to loss of its ice cap. And this rele ase will contain enough energy to blow the entire state of Texas clear to t he moon, or so they say, I would have to see it to believe it.

I'm feeling an impending methane release too. But it won't be nearly that much energy. :^) (sorry couldn't help myself.)

Can't we go down there and harvest the methane? Put it to good use... turn it into CO2.

George h.

We could make better use of extracted helium and hydrogen

But no it's in clathrate so AFAIK there's no economical way to harvest it when it's frozen, and when it gasifies the sedimentary rock it's in is too porous it just escapes to the atmosphere.

I suggest drilling a couple million km of boreholes into it and injecting refrigerant.

Okay so the only engineering problem here is how do we transport it all there?

n heat content over the past 30 years, the researchers said. They traced th e source to waters hundreds of miles to the south, where reduced sea ice ha s left the surface ocean more exposed to summer solar warming. In turn, Arc tic winds are driving the warmer water north, but below the surface waters.

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a arctic shelf) that's about to blow due to loss of its ice cap. And this r elease will contain enough energy to blow the entire state of Texas clear t o the moon, or so they say, I would have to see it to believe it.

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I don't know about hydrogen. But for helium it has to make money for the miners... There's no national helium reserve anymore, set up for our war time blimps.

Oil rigs burn off the methane. I don't have a problem asking the drillers to keep it and sell it. It could be part of the lease if it was on federal land. George H.

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OK, if it starts coming out the the ocean we'll set up floating candles to ignite and burn it. Otherwise let sleeping dogs lie.

George H.

That's what happens when too many boats have too many giant nets.

what was it at your summer

With my pasty Irish skin, my affliction was sunburn.

There is a finite supply of fish, and the quantity caught becomes a declining function of the number of boats.

at content over the past 30 years, the researchers said. They traced the so urce to waters hundreds of miles to the south, where reduced sea ice has le ft the surface ocean more exposed to summer solar warming. In turn, Arctic winds are driving the warmer water north, but below the surface waters.

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ic circle this year.

And the stories depend on peer-reviewed research rather than the childish i magination.

John Larkin can't tell the difference (or doesn't want to bother).

heat content over the past 30 years, the researchers said. They traced the source to waters hundreds of miles to the south, where reduced sea ice has left the surface ocean more exposed to summer solar warming.

That can be one factor - it did for the cod harvest without any help from g lobal warming.

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After the horrible example of the complete extinction of the cod fisheries

- they stopped while there were still a very few cod around, but the cod po pulation isn't showing much sign of significant recovery, as other fish hav e colonised their niche - the quantity caught is supposed to be set at a su stainable level. Sadly, the changing climate means that that sustainable le vel is lower than it used to be.

Very carefully.

Nonsense; the reason we have figures at all is that the fishery is managed, there's control of the numbers of boats. Warm water supports less oxygen content in the ocean. Look up 'jubilee fish kill' sometime. Or talk to a fisher.

Bullshit it would be boiling if that had happened!

water at 373K has about 808J/g thermal energy (575 warmth and 333 fusion) another 418 J/g will heat it to boining point. OTOH if the starting point was sea ice, doubling the heat content would result in warm water.

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We're not the only ones dependent upon those fish!

That's the end. We should all give up hope. You've always been ahead of us on that.

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John Larkin thinks he's a puffin? He's certainly small and a bird-brain, bu t does his nose change colour in the breeding season?

Stupid question: how does one archive heat?