From an outsider's point of view, it seems to me that one major difference - leaving aside the fact that 66% of California residents are white and 66% of Louisiana residents are/were black - is that CA is an extremely affluent - and therefore politically powerful state, whereas LA is relatively poor both financially and industrially, and thus they have less political power. If LA residents don't get positive action they can do something about it. Their complaints will be heard and acted upon but what can relatively poor people do when nothing is done? Yeah, you guessed it, complain again and that's about it.
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Ross Herbert
This paranoid republican nationalist thrives on complaints from so-called (in his mind anyway), leftist weenies...
He demands answers, so hop to it - or else....
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Jim Thompson
THE South is as explicit a location designator as THE Bay Area.
San Diego is not in THE South.
...Jim Thompson
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Jim Thompson
Louisiana has been the most politically corrupt state ever since the Huey Long era.
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Jim Thompson
Paranoid? Hardly. I just love picking on leftist weenies ;-)
...Jim Thompson
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Jim Thompson
Eh? How many days ahead were the weather forecasters declaring a "big" one?
How about all those buses that weren't used?
Selective weenie-ism argument style. Louisiana corruption at its finest.
Why don't you look up how much aid has been blown in Louisiana rather than just bloviating inaccurately.
How come is it that Mississippi knows how to properly apply its US aid?
...Jim Thompson
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John Larkin
Being that it was Spanish, then French, the corruption long predates The Kingfish.
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Jim Thompson
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Yep. I guess Huey just perfected it ;-)
Isn't Louisiana the only state that bases its state law on Napoleonic code rather than English law?
...Jim Thompson
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Paul Hovnanian P.E.
We need a better designation for that socially backward, economically disadvantaged region of the USA than just a direction on a compass.
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If so, this shifts the explanation for the screw-up in New Orleans from administrative incompetence to one of buying political favors with aid resources. Or worse yet, racism.
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Spehro Pefhany
Some people feel that parts of Florida are also not part of "The South"
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Paul Hovnanian P.E.
The local governments are not responsible for the levee system. That's the Army Corps of Engineers responsibility. Nobody there provided local officials of an assessment that properly described the danger of their breaking.
To go where? You have to have a credit card at the end of the trip to check into a hotel. Or someone has to arrange shelter.
Well, they got their football stadium repaired in record time. But honestly, we won't know how the two situations compare until we see what the aid levels look like per affected household at 6 months, one year and on from the incident.
All we have to look at now is how fast Bush showed up on site following each incident.
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I know of only two states, in THE South, Louisiana and West Virginia, that fit that description, and West Virginia "officially" is a "North" state.
Perhaps also Mississippi, but they're actually now progressing quite nicely.
All the rest of THE South are nicely industrializing.
Where do you think "Research Triangle Park" is located?
And where are the Toyota manufacturing plants?
...Jim Thompson
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Jim Thompson
Yep. A black mayor was the major impediment.
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John Larkin
When I was a kid in New Orleans, we had "salt and pepper" segregation, alternating blocks of white and black. Even the rich people had their servants living nearby, and most really rich white kids were mostly raised by, and attached to, their black nannies.
Then the Feds built the enormous, segregated, squalid housing projects, herded the black people into them, and gave them money under the condition that they not have jobs or stable families.
France is doing a similar sort of thing.
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Richard Henry
Not entirely. The US Constitution still supercedes where there is a conflict with the Napoleonic Code. You know, things like innocent until proven guilty, speedy jury trials, Biil of Rights, right of habeas corpus...
Oh, wait. That was the last millenium. Things are different now.
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John Larkin
Yes, but most of that has been reconciled. There were a couple of good things about Napoleonic Law, particularly as regards womens' rights.
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They *know* that the best management is unlikely to be the same ole boys.
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John Larkin
Any time you narrow the field with an unrelated constraint, you're likely to get a worse candidate. Specifying redheads only would have the same effect.
Nagan, like Willie Brown, is an oreo cookie.
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Richard Henry
The Witch Fire started Sunday afternoon. By 3 AM, houses were burning in Rancho Bernardo and Poway, 10-15 miles west. Most of the threatened residents were warned by reverse-911 calls or by police and fire loudspeaker announcements.
However, there were weather predictions of a strong Santa Ana wind condition as early as the preceding Wednesday.
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James Arthur
New Orleans was FLOODED and there were no passable roads for miles around might've been a factor in slowing aid?
That there were legions of needy people who'd failed to evacuate (compared to very few in California)?
There was no power, nor communications in New Orleans, that the civil authorities FLED to Baton Rouge, and the depots/government command centers in the area were wiped out by the flood. Might THOSE have been a factor?
Or that fire resources were pre-ordered and pre-positioned in California BEFORE the fires ever started (standard during 'red-flag' fire conditions)?
Furthermore, loads of firefighters and equipment were called into action for the Malibu fire--with additional resources ordered and on the way from all around the region--before the San Diego fires began, so the fire-response mechanism was in full gear by the time the southern fires started. As the northern fires in Malibu and LA county abated, these crews and equipment were available to be shifted south.
Or maybe you'd notice that Federal aid did NOT arrive significantly more quickly to California--it took 5 or 6 days for C-130 fire- fighting equipment, tours by the President, etc., etc. Meanwhile, Californians handled their own crisis. (By contrast, President Bush declared a state of emergency two days before Katrina even hit, and National Guard engineers were on station in the Super Dome two days after Katrina.)
Or perhaps you'd inform yourself about the number of poor, or the ethnicities of those in the areas affected--California has lots of hispanics, lots of Asians, lots of poor, especially in the outlying areas affected.
For crying out loud, it's not always about race. In fact, it almost _never_ is.
James Arthur
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