4-Layer boards

Apr 01, 2016 90 Replies

He's working on some IoT tiny consumer thing, on a flex substrate maybe.

John Larkin Highland Technology, Inc picosecond timing precision measurement jlarkin att highlandtechnology dott com http://www.highlandtechnology.com

Yeah, It's this case I'm thinking about. But, I've got a model now... breaking up the ground into current filaments... not high enough frequency for top and bottom to disconnect. (Still, as I draw pictures.. Think Faraday and field lines, I get lower energy, by confining the fields.) see below at DC...

Is that true if we're talking about a plane conductor, vs a solid? For a 2-D thing like a ground plane there should be a different relation... longer I'd guess... 1/f?

George H.

Oh Snap, I wanted to say it's this transition, from DC "star ground" to RF ground plane that interests me the most. I've got one data point that says RF is >1MHz, maybe even 100kHz. GH

For an infinite block of ground "plane", of course it's any frequency (it goes deeper and deeper as you approach DC, but lim-->0 isn't zero-zero).

True, edge effect could be a different function, because the geometry is different (it's got... more sides?). I don't think the units will work out any other way than diffusion though.

Exercise for the student: solve the field equations for foil. :^)

Tim

Seven Transistor Labs, LLC Electrical Engineering Consultation and Contract Design Website: http://seventransistorlabs.com

Interesting and related fact: copper traces make s***ty shunt resistors, because they're primarily inductive above ~10kHz, making them wholly useless for SMPS. (And anyway, the tempco is as bad as Rds(on) of a FET, so who cares.)

Tim

Seven Transistor Labs, LLC Electrical Engineering Consultation and Contract Design Website: http://seventransistorlabs.com

Agree about tempco, but a copper trace might have a few milliohms of resistance and a few nH of inductance, which should be usable. A surface-mount milliohm resistor will have more inductance than a trace of the same footprint.

A downstream RC will flatten out either.

John Larkin Highland Technology, Inc picosecond timing precision measurement jlarkin att highlandtechnology dott com http://www.highlandtechnology.com

What does it mean "to read squat"? Google isn't very helpful here.

Best regards, Piotr

basically means they don't even look at it

dictionary says: squat = Slang, A small or worthless amount

-Lasse

That's a bit euphemistic. While not actually obscene, it isn't a polite exp ression, as you'll have gathered from the context. ;)

Cheers

Phil Hobbs

Den fredag den 15. april 2016 kl. 13.11.55 UTC+2 skrev Phil Hobbs:

xpression, as you'll have gathered from the context. ;)

yeh, I guess in most uses it is a replacement for "s*it"

-Lasse

Hi Oppie. I found what you worked in air pollution research. How can I contact with you? I'm trying to build pollen detection devic and need for some advice. Sorry for off topic.

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