150 ps TDR sampler--dead bug!

ChesterW and I have spent the last couple of days doing a dead-bug proto of a single-diode TDR front end I designed for a mutual client. It uses all SOT23, SC-70, 0603, and a super small (0402ish) sampling diode. It includes the TX pulse generator, sample pulse generator, sampling diode, and a ~100~MHz bandwidth buffer and voltage amplifier

Connectors are MMCX to minimize pigtail inductance. Nice clean sampling response, 150-ps 10%-90% (probably 100 ps FWHM), 17 ps p-p jitter, BOM cost $1.30 excluding connectors. (I cheated slightly by replacing the BJT pulse generators with pHEMTs--an extra 80 cents--to make up for the higher stray inductances, so it's really $2.10.)

Chester's bit is the delay generator, back end, and all the secret sauce in the actual transducer we're measuring. It's all done, so he came up from Dallas to lend a shoulder to the prototyping wheel, which was great.

For the test, we used one of JL's very nice P400 digital delay generators to do the timing. That 17 ps jitter number is pretty good, I think, especially since there's no shielding and a bunch of cell phones around. It's neat to be able to tune the delay by 10 ps and see the sampler output change.

Prototyping is sure slow when you're fighting the surface tension of the solder and the tendency of all of the midair solder joints to melt at once. 0603-pitch pad board with ground plane is a big win for this sort of job, but some of the hairiest mid-air things took 10 tries to get right, even under a Mantis.

Fun doing my first-ever sampler, though!

Cheers

Phil Hobbs

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Dr Philip C D Hobbs 
Principal Consultant 
ElectroOptical Innovations LLC 
Optics, Electro-optics, Photonics, Analog Electronics 

160 North State Road #203 
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hobbs at electrooptical dot net 
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Phil Hobbs
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I just got the assembled proto (a 4-layer PC board) of a TDR. It will cost a bit more than yours, but I'm hoping to get down around 50 ps. I expect the step response to be sorta ugly, but that can be deconvolved for beauty, and maybe a bit faster risetime.

A couple of the chips are leadless QFNs, so a hand-wired proto wasn't appealing.

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Maybe I'll fire it up this weekend. Then find a use for it.

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John Larkin         Highland Technology, Inc 
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John Larkin

Fun.

I think mine is limited by the voltage gain of the pHEMTs, because I'm driving their gates with a 1.5 ns edge. A couple of those nice ECL comparators you're using would be nice, or even two stages of pHEMT, but that would blow the budget for this one. A TDR accuracy of a quarter inch is easily good enough for this job.

Cheers

Phil Hobbs

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Dr Philip C D Hobbs 
Principal Consultant 
ElectroOptical Innovations LLC 
Optics, Electro-optics, Photonics, Analog Electronics 

160 North State Road #203 
Briarcliff Manor NY 10510 

hobbs at electrooptical dot net 
http://electrooptical.net
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Phil Hobbs

Will these be available to the great unwashed? Price,qty?

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Robert Baer

As part of a low cost gauging application. Dunno about other stuff.

For lab use, Tek 1180x stuff and (especially) HP 70820A units are available cheap, and have far better performance--a SD-24 head does 30 ps-ish TDR.

Cheers

Phil Hobbs

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Phil Hobbs

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