vroemm wrote in news:44fca8c0$0$53258$ snipped-for-privacy@news.wanadoo.nl:
Carbon resistors can be better at high voltages (above 1000V), as there is volume to absorb and dissipate energy rather than a thin film that can easily be burned out. For most uses metal film is far better though, and even at 1% tolerance they're cheap. You can get more choices for values too.
If he's talking about "100 carbon resistors cost 1.41 euro", he's not talking about carbon composition, but carbon film.
And at the prices he's talking about the resistors probably are rated for no more than 500V, I'm guessing he's talking about 1/2W or 1/4W units or less.
In my experience I would rate typical metal films as far better at handling massive overloads than carbon films. Of course there are fundamentally different types of metal films (some are high-precision, others have safety ratings, some might even have both but not at the price he's talking about!)
"Tim Shoppa" wrote in news: snipped-for-privacy@b28g2000cwb.googlegroups.com:
I hadn't thought of that.. carbon film.. I'd never use them at all, unless someone can tell me a reason to. I thought they were purely a cost saving thing where poor tolerances didn't matter, made redundant for most uses once metal film became cheap.
I still rate the solid carbon ones though, they don't cost that much. I made a HeNe laser current limit resistor out of 4 2W solid carbons in adhesive lined heatskrink tubing, and they work well. First tests were with metal film resistors, but they burned out spectacularly like they might if I'd microwaved them for fun. I bet carbon film types would be even worse.
I use standard 1% 0.6W metal film types for nearly everything I do, I think there's no point in trying to save money by using anything less, except maybe if you're into huge volume production. The difference on cost is far less than the worth of time lost in solving problems with bad resistors.
vroemm wrote in news:44fe8d02$0$1296$ snipped-for-privacy@news.wanadoo.nl:
Fair enough. I didn't think there would be that much difference. There wasn't last time I looked, but if you can get that much difference go for it. Or check to see if there's a cheaper source of 0.6W, as a difference that strong suggests you might find one.
The differences are more marked in low volumes. At the 1000+pces end of the market they are cheaper, and a lot of stuff is available surplus as companies go over to surface mount.
We started stockpiling leaded resistors a couple of years ago when the majors started reducing their manufacturing programmes. We won't ever go to surface mount so need to ensure supplies for a few year yet, or at least until I retire!
Peter
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