Some questions regarding board design

Mar 12, 2009 3 Replies

Hi,



I have been designing boards for myself for quite awhile BUT I am using a mechanical etch process to fabricate them on an IBC2222 BoardMaker machine. This process is quite different than going to a vendor. My day has finally arrived that I have to rely on a vendor to produce some one off boards for me. I have read the David L Jones document available on the web but I still have a few questions I am hoping that I can get some help on so here goes......


1.) How are non-plated thru holes handled? Do they still require a pad ring to allow the plate thru process to work and then they get drilled to the finished size.


2.) My CAD system is lacking in area fill capability. Do the PCB vendors allow using a combined layer negative for the fill.planes and combining it with a positive artwork layer to get the connections in. Same goes for ground plane layers, do the vendors accept them as negatives?


3.) What are typical clearances for solder mask artwork? Can the openings go right up against the edge of pads? Can this artwork be a negative too?


4.) How do I define the cut-out shape as the boards are circular so a simple shear cross hairs in the corners won't do it. Do I provide a layer with the shape to be cut-out?


5.) I require countersunk mounting holes around the periphery. How to I indicate that? Would it be a see Note ### for more information?

Many thanks to all who are able to help me out.



regards, al


Take a look at the pre-order checklist and FAQs at

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That's just one vendor but the general capabilities and limitations are similar.

You're probably far better off (in cost and in eventual satisfaction) the less you depend on manipulation of your files by the board house.

It's possible to use tools like ViewMate

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to "swell" the pads in a Gerber layer to make a new Gerber for a mask layer. Not available in the free version, though. Try 10 mils (0.01") for your mask clearance.

Rich Webb Norfolk, VA

My vendor says just to label them "NONPTH" on the drill chart. You don't need a pad.

Yes.

Yes it is normally a negative. Not sure about clearance - ask them. Mine seem to increase the clearances themselves...

I usually do it as part of the drill chart, just a thin line whose center represents the edge of the board. I used to ask them what router they use and carefully draw in a channel that wide, but don't bother now. They seem to figure it all out themselves. You should ask them though. They may need to leave little bits that keep the circle attached to the rectangular panel.

Guess so, never tried asking for countersinking.

The Chinese vendor I use does each job separately, so it is no problem. Some of the lower cost European and US services may offer low prototype prices because they can combine your job as part of a larger panel. They therefore have stricter rules about what you can and cannot do while remaining in the low-cost scheme.

John Devereux

No pad required. Note in the Drill Drawing which holes are non-plated. I assume they drill after the final plating process is done. We supply a separate drill file for NPTH, but that isn't necessary.

Ask your vendor. They should have the capability to merge layers, even flip a negative, then merge with positive. I've done this in the early days using PCAD.

Ask your vendor. A good vendor can hold 2 mil clearance. Don't use zero or you will get mask on your pads. The clearance is for registration issues.

You can show this in the Drill Drawing. Show the board outline and dimensions. Complicated outlines, I include a drawing of the outline showing all the dimensions. Some places will route along an outline you provide on one of the layers, good board houses will go off a drawing. Shear cross-hairs aren't necessary. The board house will use their own targets and drill holes to align the stackup. The final board is routed out of the panel, not sheared.

Ask you vendor if they can do this. Put that in the drill drawing or a separate mechanical drawing. Also, note it verbally in your readme file that explains each layer name and how you want those layers processed (copper weight, layer separation, material, special features, layer merging, ...). We have a blind drill hole in one of our boards thats done after the final lamination. They're pretty good at controlling the depth.

Bottom line, you need to talk to your vendor. If they are a quick-turn prototype house, much of what you want can't be done at cheap prices. You'll need to resort to their full service offering.

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