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Re: Jerry Harvey supporting Australian Industry

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A fair bit of the furniture seems still to be made in Oz.


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You're visiting the wrong parts of the store.



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Remember this?

Another weeping, "success" crazed billionaire
fears becoming lazy, and being down to his last
billion dollars as he pleads for cheap labour:
"I've got horse studs and it's difficult to get staff."

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http://www.news.com.au/business/story/0,23636,22619233-462,00.html
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BILLIONAIRE retailer Gerry Harvey says Australia
needs a two-tier wage system to allow employers to
pay foreign guest workers less than locals.

The Harvey Norman boss said Australia's prosperity
was creating a labour shortage and endangering the
nation's competitiveness. He said a growing number
of Australian manufacturers were moving overseas,
where cheap labour was plentiful.

He called on the Federal Government to allow
foreign workers on fixed visas to form a second
tier to the labour market. "Australia doesn't have
cheap labour. Many overseas workers would be
prepared to move here for a much better life and
half the money Australians earn," he said.

"When you get unemployment down to four per cent,
to three per cent, to two per cent, business can't
get the labour. I've got horse studs and it's
difficult to get staff. Workers would rather work
in the mines where they get paid twice as much.
Fruit-picking companies are relying on
backpackers."

Mr Harvey said both major parties needed to open
the gates to migrants.

"The US can draw on a lot of cheap labour from
Mexico and South America," he said. "People from
those countries move to the US looking for a
better life. European countries can draw on cheap
labour from eastern Europe."

"The danger of being too prosperous is that it can
come back to bite you - you can become too lazy
and other nations work harder and overtake you."

"What I'm saying is not politically correct. You
won't get politicians saying what I'm saying, but
privately they know this sort of thing is a
reality in the future."

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Re: Jerry Harvey supporting Australian Industry

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support Australian Industry?

Varys with the part of the store. Its not too bad in some areas like matresses
etc.

And when they dont its mostly because there is no locally manufactured stuff
available or the customers wont pay the price for the locally made stuff.

There is no way out of that problem when overseas labor costs are so
dramatically lower.

And we clearly dont need to support australian industry at that level when
the unemployment rate is 5% with most of it made outside the country.
At that unemployment rate, anyone who wants a job can get one.



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My how one's perception changes with time. In the 60s the unemployment rate
was 2% and that was classified as FULL employment. Then came Gough the
destroyer and unemployment will never be 2% again. Now full employment is
classified as an unemployment rate of 5%. A full 2 1/2 times what it used to
be. Thank you Labor party idealist shit......

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Each and every Labor government has stuffed around with the economy.
Gough started with a 3500b in the coffers and ended up with 3500b in the
red. Keating as treasurer increased sales tax to make ends sort of meet.
We were doing nicely thankyou then Rudd said lets spend, we have savings
from the previous mob. Now they can't make anything work or willing to
release full details of their stuffups. Gerry said lets have another
hand out so its spent in my stores.

This NBN s,,ts me.











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As did many countries during the first oil crisis.

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And Howard introduced a GST so the poor could pay for tax cuts for the rich.
And reduced services and infrastructure spending, and privatised everything
to make ends meet. Now we are gong to spend more than we got for the sale of
Telstra, to provide the infrastructure that Telstra once provided at a
PROFIT to the government/taxpayer. What an amazing cock up that decsion was,
nearly as bad as privatising public transport and continuing to pay MORE in
taxpayer funds for it's infrastructure than we did when the government owned
it. :-(

MrT.



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Thats a lie. The GST goes to the states, doesnt affect federal income tax rates.

And Cheating had tax cuts for the rich anyway.

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Corse Cheating never ever privatised anything at all, eh ?

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the
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government/taxpayer.

Not once its flogged off again we aint.

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No one ever has private industry build public transport, stupid.



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As I understand it, the rail link from Eagle Junction station to the
Brisbane Airport is private, and to use it the fare is exhorbitant.

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rich.
rates.

So you think those tax cuts introduced by Howard at the same time were just
co-incidence?
And the reduction in grants from the Feds to the states was another
co-incidence?
What drugs are you on?

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Yep, they all do, Rudd did however introduce tax cuts for the poor after 10
years of the Libs charging income tax on people earning less than the
dole!!!! AND introducing a GST to make them even worse off of course.


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Yep, as I said, they all do. They are ALL bastards!


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provide the
government/taxpayer.
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We will NEVER make a profit on the NBN, AND they will sell it at a loss.


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IF that were so, why privatise it then? You are wrong though of course.

MrT.





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red.

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rates.

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Thats a tiny part of the BrizVegas rail system.



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Yep, instead grants to states for other things, they got some of the GST
colleted in their state

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what do you think little johnny did with the grant money he saved?

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colleted in their state

Some states got more than the GST collected in their state.

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That went on lower taxes for the low income earners to compensate them for
the GST they now had to pay on stuff that was not previously sales taxed.



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support Australian Industry?

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matresses etc.

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dramatically lower.

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shit......

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We saw hikes in the unemployment rate under the coalition too.

That fool Fraser was actually stupid enough to claim that his best achievement
was
to pay child benefits to women, the first time we saw lots of middle class
welfare.

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Thats a lie.

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Another lie.


Because the shit hit the fan in the world financial system.

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He didnt just spend the savings.

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Thats a lie, they did see the economy work a hell of a lot
better thru the GFC than in any other first world country.

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Thats another lie.

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He's always been a terminal fuckwit.

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Then do the decent thing and set fire to yourself outside parliament house.



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                                                       John Howard.

Re: Jerry (sic) Harvey supporting Australian Industry

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So Gough increased unemployment in ALL countries then. I didn't realise he
had so much international power.


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Ant the unemployment rate under Howard/Costello was less than 5% was it? At
least we now have a lower unemployment rate than 90% of the rest of the
western world.
Amazing how political stooges can blame the other party even when they have
done a good job there, and are wanting in so many other areas, and their
party is even worse anyway!

MrT.







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support Australian Industry?

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matresses etc.

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dramatically lower.

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the unemployment rate is 5% with most of
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We'll see...

employment.

And then we were actually stupid enough to pay fools
the dole even when they werent interested in working.

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How odd that Howard couldnt return it to 2% when he was in for 3 times as long
as Witless.

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How odd that Howard couldnt return it to 2% when he was in for 3 times as long
as Witless.



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support Australian Industry?
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matresses etc.
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dramatically lower.
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was 2% and that was classified as FULL employment.
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full employment is classified as an unemployment rate
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shit......

Gough came to power at a time when employment would never be 2% again,
no matter who was in charge.

He did make a university education free for those clever enough, not just
those who could pay enough.

He also eliminated the ridiculous TV license fee, something much of Europe
still hangs on to - to prop up TV stations that cannot compete.

He also led the world in banning tobacco advertising on TV - which has probably
saved thousands of lives. Something only the 'socialists' would have done in
the '70s - the lieberals were happy to see their tobacco industry shares rise
alongside the deaths from tobacco-related causes.

Anyway, the definition of 'employed' has also changed. It used to mean a
full-time job, now it means a few hours a month.



 



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probably
in
rise

And he introduced universal health care!

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NOT so, ANYBODY not on the dole is NOT counted as unemployed, no matter how
many hours they work or don't work. Plenty of people that WOULD work are not
counted as unemployed because the government doesn't care about the ones who
don't cost them anything!.

MrT.



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Another lie, it didnt cover foreigners.

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Another pig ignorant lie. The ABS does not use the dole as the measure of who is
unemployed.

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Another bare faced pig ignorant lie.
http://www.abs.gov.au/AUSSTATS/ snipped-for-privacy@.nsf/0/BAEE975B131AD2CACA25775900180C64?opendocument
The comment on sampling error proves that they dont count those receiving the
dole.



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