Re: Whingeing retail billionaires and the 10% GST

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Why are you using an imported pejorative?

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The AGW is just a scam, but for that reason our weak crooked leaders will continue to pursue it, and we will end up paying for it.

AKA "The Emperor's New Clothes".

;)

$2400 PA here, plus water, cat/dog licenses and other such crap.

See above re alternative energy.

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There is no "alternative" energy - at least not at a price any of us could ever afford.

Too many breeding people is the problem.

Knowledge and productive skills are useless unless you can exploit skilled and trained savages from the third world. The imported scab labour Ponzi scheme sure beats real, honest work, and delivers lower wages, higher rents, and growing poverty. Aussies need to look behind the facade of cooked statistics. A powerful plague immigration lobby has been telling them that growing poverty and strife is really growing prosperity and multicultural harmony.

Australia's private debt to GDP ratios

How the real estate Ponzi scheme debt-bubble is shaping up for the Aussie sheeple.

Australia's colossal exponential rise of private debt as percentage of GDP from 1969-2008 makes Government debt look miniscule.

Ratio of Debt / GDP ___________________________ Year

::150% ________________________________________ 2008 ::140% _______________________________________ 2006 ::130% ______________________________________ 2005 ::120% _____________________________________ 2004 ::110% __________________________________ 2001 ::100% _________________________________ 2000 :::90% ______________________________ 1998 :::80% ___________________________ 1995 :::70% ____________________ 1988 :::60% __________________ 1986 :::50% _______________ 1983 :::40% ________ 1976 :::30% _ 1969

Mr.T wrote

That wasnt always the case.

We should be spending it on nukes if we believe that CO2 production in australia actually matters a damn to world CO2 levels.

Going to be interesting to watch. Some I know like wireless, and others dont, basically the thruput isnt good enough for those that dont.

Dunno. You can make a case for spending what was raised by flogging off Telstra on a modern infrastucture to replace the copper network if it wasnt for what that money could be better spent on.

Because no one but the govt is ever going to spend anything like $43B on infrastructure.

If they can flog it off once its done, its more a way of getting that sort of thing done because it doesnt necessarily end up costing the taxpayer anything, just like the copper network itself didnt.

support Australian Industry?

Varys with the part of the store. Its not too bad in some areas like matresses etc.

And when they dont its mostly because there is no locally manufactured stuff available or the customers wont pay the price for the locally made stuff.

There is no way out of that problem when overseas labor costs are so dramatically lower.

And we clearly dont need to support australian industry at that level when the unemployment rate is 5% with most of it made outside the country. At that unemployment rate, anyone who wants a job can get one.

Mr.T wrote

Yes they do.

Yes they have, mostly with stupid gas fired power stations.

Bet it does.

Not a pipe dream so much as uneconomic.

Nope.

Yep. And that fixes the CO2 problem forever.

electricity!

That isnt even a possibility.

Because the stupid 'alternative' energy schemes are so much more expensive.

That has to be paid for by someone.

I can download movies fine with the current broadband.

They dont have any of the stuff I want to watch.

Thats not why Telstra was flogged off. Aussat either.

Nope.

Mr.T wrote

You're visiting the wrong parts of the store.

My how one's perception changes with time. In the 60s the unemployment rate was 2% and that was classified as FULL employment. Then came Gough the destroyer and unemployment will never be 2% again. Now full employment is classified as an unemployment rate of 5%. A full 2 1/2 times what it used to be. Thank you Labor party idealist shit......

Each and every Labor government has stuffed around with the economy. Gough started with a 3500b in the coffers and ended up with 3500b in the red. Keating as treasurer increased sales tax to make ends sort of meet. We were doing nicely thankyou then Rudd said lets spend, we have savings from the previous mob. Now they can't make anything work or willing to release full details of their stuffups. Gerry said lets have another hand out so its spent in my stores.

This NBN s,,ts me.

John Howard.

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So Gough increased unemployment in ALL countries then. I didn't realise he had so much international power.

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Ant the unemployment rate under Howard/Costello was less than 5% was it? At least we now have a lower unemployment rate than 90% of the rest of the western world. Amazing how political stooges can blame the other party even when they have done a good job there, and are wanting in so many other areas, and their party is even worse anyway!

MrT.

yep it dosen't look much when the units are 1.6XXXXXXXXXXXXX cents then you add just 25% to that.

As did many countries during the first oil crisis.

And Howard introduced a GST so the poor could pay for tax cuts for the rich. And reduced services and infrastructure spending, and privatised everything to make ends meet. Now we are gong to spend more than we got for the sale of Telstra, to provide the infrastructure that Telstra once provided at a PROFIT to the government/taxpayer. What an amazing c*ck up that decsion was, nearly as bad as privatising public transport and continuing to pay MORE in taxpayer funds for it's infrastructure than we did when the government owned it. :-(

MrT.

Rob wrote

support Australian Industry?

matresses etc.

dramatically lower.

shit......

We saw hikes in the unemployment rate under the coalition too.

That fool Fraser was actually stupid enough to claim that his best achievement was to pay child benefits to women, the first time we saw lots of middle class welfare.

Thats a lie.

Another lie.

Because the shit hit the fan in the world financial system.

He didnt just spend the savings.

Thats a lie, they did see the economy work a hell of a lot better thru the GFC than in any other first world country.

Thats another lie.

He's always been a terminal f****it.

Then do the decent thing and set fire to yourself outside parliament house.

SG1 wrote

support Australian Industry?

matresses etc.

dramatically lower.

the unemployment rate is 5% with most of

We'll see...

employment.

And then we were actually stupid enough to pay fools the dole even when they werent interested in working.

How odd that Howard couldnt return it to 2% when he was in for 3 times as long as Witless.

How odd that Howard couldnt return it to 2% when he was in for 3 times as long as Witless.

support Australian Industry?

matresses etc.

dramatically lower.

was 2% and that was classified as FULL employment.

full employment is classified as an unemployment rate

shit......

Gough came to power at a time when employment would never be 2% again, no matter who was in charge.

He did make a university education free for those clever enough, not just those who could pay enough.

He also eliminated the ridiculous TV license fee, something much of Europe still hangs on to - to prop up TV stations that cannot compete.

He also led the world in banning tobacco advertising on TV - which has probably saved thousands of lives. Something only the 'socialists' would have done in the '70s - the lieberals were happy to see their tobacco industry shares rise alongside the deaths from tobacco-related causes.

Anyway, the definition of 'employed' has also changed. It used to mean a full-time job, now it means a few hours a month.

Mr.T wrote

Thats a lie. The GST goes to the states, doesnt affect federal income tax rates.

And Cheating had tax cuts for the rich anyway.

Corse Cheating never ever privatised anything at all, eh ?

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government/taxpayer.

Not once its flogged off again we aint.

No one ever has private industry build public transport, stupid.

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A lot of the lounge suites etc that HN they stock are Australian Made. We were in the market for a new one last year and noticed this at the time.

Ended up getting one from HN in Brisbane as they had one the missus loved and a very good price.

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As I understand it, the rail link from Eagle Junction station to the Brisbane Airport is private, and to use it the fare is exhorbitant.