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Make that four.

or 4) between RoI and mainland Europe.

Not that Brussels would ever have accepted that, but it seems less intrusive than a border within a single nation.

(Isn't this all way OT now for this group)

On a sunny day (Thu, 19 May 2022 12:26:04 +0100) it happened The Natural Philosopher snipped-for-privacy@invalid.invalid wrote in <t659gc$avq$ snipped-for-privacy@dont-email.me:

Well Germany - ruled at that time by US agent Merkel - killed their nuclear plants as US is afraid they make a bomb. Merkel used the fear for nuclear in the population after F*uckupshima and screaming greens did the rest.

Its all US games, killing Northstream2 was already part of Trumps game, ByeThen just used warmongering to do the rest, war games... US rather kills its own people with fracking...

I'd expect if US does not get nuked into oblivion then the states will fall apart anyways and what will be left is a bunch of black warlords eating each other and perhaps buffalo... :-)

Quite right, too much fracking. I blame Battlestar Galactica.

But there is an island called Ireland. "Country" was not specified originally.

Den 2022-05-19 kl. 09:18, skrev Jan Panteltje:

Why would English be out? Ireland and Malta still have is as offical language. And I guess that English is still the language known by most EU-residents - may it be 2nd , 3rd or 4th language.

Besides - medical doctors still use Latin as part of their work. No country has Latin as offical language but for the Vatican

That's a geographical entity. Like Europe.

RUSSIAN agent, Merkel

- killed their nuclear plants as US is afraid they make a bomb.

Please take this totally off topic politics to uk.poitics

Or would you like me to just cross-post it there?

Far from it, a resounding success would be more accurate, nobody wants to go back to the bad old days of currency exchange.

WRONG! The UK has created a land border with the EU it is the UKs responsibility to solve the problems that causes and to do so within the terms of the Good Friday Agreement to which the UK is signatory.

It is the UK's problem that they have backed themselves into an impossible corner.

English is I think the most common second language in the EU - phone a business in Germany and ask "Do you speak English" and the answer is likely to be "Of course" in an offended tone (in which case they'll be pretty fluent with the occasional odd word, phrasing or hesitation) or "A little" in which case they could probably teach English at advanced level in the UK.

As for the Dutch - I have had the experience of trying out my (very limited and undoubtedly appallingly accented) Dutch only to be answered in fluent English. This is apparently a common Dutch trick - deducing the other persons language from the way the mangle Dutch and using it to reply.

In a word "HELL NO", that would be totally unacceptable. Ireland is a member of the EU and fully entitled to the four freedoms and all the other benefits of EU membership, the UK don't get to take that away from Ireland or have any say at all in Ireland's international relationships (other than with the UK).

For the UK to interfere in the relations between another country and the supranational organisation it is a member of seems less intrusive than the UK sorting out its own dirty linen - that's a *very* strange viewpoint.

I have encountered people thinking that way in Germany, Austria, Ireland and Holland. It's not common but it happens.

Well, I asked nicely.

The Land Border has always existed? I don't see where it states in the Good Friday Agreement that the UK is responsible for the South closing the border?

It's been 25 years, anyway, high time the Irish learnt to get along with each other.

Hopefully NI will opt for reunification, and then the EU can subsidise/deal with them. They are a lovely bunch :o).

Since 1927.

The problem there is twofold:

- neither side of the land border wants customs posts on it.

- as I said elsewhere said land border is at least as much of a topological mess as the Dutch/Belgian one: I believe that, if strictly drawn it would bisect houses, roads and farmyards

Thats pretty much solved now.

Spoddon. Boris and his hangers on are by and large so self-centered that they were incapable of realising that theit BIG IDEA, a border in the Irish Sea, might not be either workable or acceptable to the DUP, let alone that it is, in fact, both.

Quite the opposite, it is AIUI impossible to square creating a hard customs border on the island of Ireland with the GFA. The fact that it is also incredibly difficult is another problem that could be solved it just requires a *lot* of work and a *lot* of detail negotiation - it'd probably take a century to do the job.

The UK is responsible for creating a border between the UK and the EU that must be closed under international law and for the self interest of BOTH sides. Most of that border is ocean which is easy but some of it is on the island of Ireland.

The UK has signed an agreement (the GFA) that says it won't be between NI and the ROI. The UK government has promised the DUP that it won't be between the UK and NI - but they put it there anyway.

Until the UK left the EU the provisions of the CTA, the four freedoms of the EU and the GFA meant that the border between ROI and NI was irrelevant.

The UK chose to leave the EU and the single market and so goods, money, people and services no longer travel freely between the EU and the UK. Which means border controls are required of BOTH sides by international law. The UK has to find a place for them that satisfies all of their obligations. They've painted themselves into a corner.

Yes, I too wish they'd take their off topic discussion out of here. But usenet is usenet - nearly all the bad habits of social media started on usenet ages ago, and continue today.

Soory to add more noise.

To bring this stupidity on topic, I thought the common language for RPI users was PYTHON. Nearly all suppliers of hardware add-ons provide python example software for access. Is there a compiler or interpreter for "English" for the raspberry pi?