Toro self propelled lawn mower ignition problem

90% baloney as usual. There are two ways to "run" an engine without a load on the ignition coil.

One is to hand start the engine with the spark plug wire disconnected. That won't do any damage as there's not enough energy in the spark from hand cranking to do any damage.

The other way is to run the engine for a while, and remove the spark plug wire. Assuming you can do this without getting a nasty shock, it might internally arc across the coil. However, in my limited experience with chain saws and small generator engines, a shorted coil will still generate a small arc. Not a hot or big as a normal coil, but unless the short is somehow across the entire coil (easily found with an ohmmeter test), you'll still see a tiny spark. Buy a real tester:

(I made my own spark gap from a piece of U shaped plastic).

What I think happened here is that someone transplanted the story from their automobile or multi-cylinder engine experience. With more than one cyclinder, it is possible to run the engine with one spark plug wire disconnected, which might cause internal arcing. However, it's not likely with a single cylinder engine.

Note that the coil part number that I excavated is used in Husqvarna, Tecumseh, Toro, and others. If it was as failure prone when NOT running as you imply, there would be recalls and other failures in epidemic numbers.

Testing the ignition:

This one covers most ways to test your engine spark.

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Yes. Many. Thats how they fail. Temperature, vibration, aging induce small cracks in the insulation. Dirt, moisture infiltrate, etc. Better coils are designed with internal aux gaps greater than the normal spark plug gap. I've dissected failed coils, not hard to find traces of internal arcing, melting.

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bw

Well, I had a B&S engine that would run for 10 minutes or so, and then get weak, sputter and finally die. if you let it sit for a couple minutes, it would start and run for 30 seconds or so and die again. A new spark coil fixed it completely, and it ran fine until the deck, wheel drive, etc. was completely worn out.

Just had a problem with its replacement mower. it would run for about

20 minutes, start knocking, lose power and then die with a big blast of oil smoke, I guess it got hot enough to boil the oil out the crankcase vent, and sucked that into the carb. I cleaned the cooling passages, but that didn't help. It finally occurred to me the timing could be off, so I checked the shearable key on the flywheel, and it was sheared. I haven't run it for 20 minutes yet, but I'll be that was the problem, advanced spark timing. It does seem to run better though, I'll put the kids to work soon for a more exhaustive test of my repair.

Jon

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Jon Elson

Replace the coil and be done Jerry

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digulla5

HUH? I don't even own a Toro self propelled lawn mower!

Oh, I see... Another google grooper...

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Allodoxaphobia

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