Req: Help with a 19" TV purity problem

OK, this is a problem with a 19" Citizen TV. It is just over a year old.

If the set is put on a stand that has a metal object (like a Satellite Receiver on a shelf) mounted within 8 inches below the set, the pic has a very noticeable purity problem all the way across the bottom and about

1/2 way up each side. If I raise the set up, the purity problem will diminish, but even up at 8" away from the console stand, it still has slight purity issues.

Raising the set up on boxes is problematic, as the space is very limited. I would like to shield whatever it is. I am not sure if it is a reflection from the set or radiated magnetic fields from the equipment below.

The console is in a travel trailer, so I cannot move everything away from the tv, as most of the electronics are in this one console, with the TV on top of it.

Any helpful suggestions are appreciated.

Thanks,

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Tim wrote in news: snipped-for-privacy@news.aliant.net:

I assume that this is a CRT tv, not a LCD or plasma tv.

Sounds like the 'metal object' contains a strong magnet or has been magnetized. I have some magnets that will effect a CRT from over 2 feet away.

A transformer can also radiate a[n AC] magnetic field that disrupts nearby devices.

If you can find the source of the magnetic field and move THAT away from the TV, it should fix the problem.

It is possible that putting the set in place and then 'degaussing' everything in the vicinity will 'fix' the problem.

Does your Satellite receiver have a built in hard drive for recording programs? It is possible that the drive is 'leaking' a strong magnetic field [but most hard drives confine the field very well]

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Yes the TV is CRT, and no, the receiver does not have a HD in it, nor does it have a large transformer. The purity problem is static, that is it does not change colour, so I don't think it's a transformer, as that would cause a rainbow effect.

Maybe I'll try rearranging the "stack" of components to see if one of the other devices cause less magnetic radiation, or reflection if that's the case.

It would be nice if this set had a manual degaussing option, but alas it doesn't. I don't even hear the coils buzz when the set comes on, but there are no other purity issues, so they must be functional. I'll take my tape eraser down with me, and try that to see if the problem returns after zapping the screen.

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Tim wrote in news: snipped-for-privacy@news.aliant.net:

Lacking an eraser, if you can hang a magnet on a string so that you can spin it, you can sometime degauss with that.

I had a nice heavy magnet from an old radar magnetron that had a hole in just the right spot. I had a loop of copper wire threaded through the hole and hung the contraption from a piece of string. I would wind it up good and let it spin, slowly moving it away from the monitor. Did a good job of degaussing.

Sometimes, for a joke, I would spin it on the other side of a wall, near someones monitor. They would come running out of their office "something strange is happening to my monitor. The picture is wobbling all over the place and changing colors!" :)

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The OP did not say if the stand was metal or not. If it is metal, that may be adding to the problem. The spinning magnet to degauss is an old trick that works well as long as it is spinning rapidly compared to how fast you are moving awa from the set.

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philsvintageradios wrote in news:d0401b14- snipped-for-privacy@z24g2000prf.googlegroups.com:

Shielding against a DC magnetic field REQUIRES a ferris material. The stronger it is picked up by a magnet, the better.

Mu-metal is the best kind of shielding.

Aluminum, whether grounded or not, will have no effect. Neither will copper. You need something that will 'short out' and 'contain' the magnetic field.

On the other hand A conductor WILL give some shielding for AC magnetic fields. The degree of shielding depends on the frequency of the AC. The higher the frequency, the easier it is to shield against an AC field with a GOOD conductor of any kind.

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