Repair or despair? Natalie or Jim?

BBC World Service...

HUH? How so?

More people died on 9/11 than at Pearl Harbor. The difference is the 'enemy' does not wear khaki colored uniforms and wave a Rising Sun for all to see. Matter of fact, they may be living right down the block from you with a cache of ricin...

I know you meant what you think you said, but I don't think what you said meant what you thought it meant.

See? They don't dismiss that it's man's fault, they aver that it is.

Sorry, I left out the smiley....

jak

YOU are the most dangerous asshole in this ng and should be dealt with accordingly.

So, are you still sending money to Al Queda?

Hell, hachi, they probably live right IN that asshole's house.

LOL! Hey, Clifto, I like your sig!

Yup...let's make pollution to combat pollution. Makes perfect sense to me, hey...

Hey, Arfa, ya know, I *DID* listen closely, and their 'spin' is very subtle indeed.

Here's a prime example: on 12/08's 'Analysis' from the World Service, they were talking about Genetically Modified crops. They had one guy from BASF talking in favor, they had one guy from somewhere else talking in favor, and they had some girl from Free Earth or something like that speak her mind 5-6 times! They gave MUCH more lip time to the opponents than trhe proponents. And not from various opponents, but only from ONE opposing source.

This is the kind of spin that becomes apparent with careful listening (I listen to the BBC for about 3 hours every early AM...)

No, a good deal of them were plotting.

Better to err on the side of caution than have a dirty bomb going off in NYC, or even London, for that matter.

Here's a flash: the Muslims don't particularly like the British either...

Begins to sound that way.

Some people function better with their head in the sand. Remember Zaphod Beeblebrox's 'sunglasses'? ;)

OTOH one of the BBC TV channels has broadcast a documentary that totally dismisses human activity and even atmospheric CO2 emissions as causes of global warming. Why would BBC do that if they were so one- sided about global warming?

So, how are you doing with that?

How do you know it is the fault of man ?

If it's happened before it can't be man made can it ?

You just said they said otherwise.

NO. That was Channel 4 and it was never claimed to be a 'documentary' either.

Graham

There are some answers to all of this, but it will be quite long. I will confine it to your Toyota group, if you want to hear them . You OK with that ? Or I will mail you direct if you would prefer ? In the meantime, see Graham's post about the Channel 4 programme "The Great Global Warming Swindle". It was excellent, if you did not see it over there. I believe it is available on YouTube.

Arfa

No, they pay him to do PR work.

I've owned two, and both of them tried to kill me. :(

2: A '83 pickup truck that didn't want to say in the road, at ANY speed.

I scrapped the Corona, and the pickup was totaled after hydroplaning at under 5 MPH on a barely damp road. A woman coming the other direction hit me head on, because she was driving down the center of the two lane highway. When the cops arrived they wanted to know where the body of the driver of the pickup was taken. :(

Wow. Our first Toyota was a '72 Corona (Only real difference '72 and '73 was the grille...). Never looked back...

WOW! Of course, maybe if the woman had been on her own side of the road it might have made a difference.

I had an '85 my stepfather couldn't drive any more. Scrapped in in '95 because of the 21" hole in the frame...

And he seems to be doing a good job of it, too...

Ya, mon, c'mon over to the Toyota group. Occasionally we talk about cars, too! ;)

This is from a post I made this morning, after listening to the BBC:

"China announces plastic bag ban"

(China has announced a ban on plastic shopping bags, just like San Francisco. But for what reason? The BBC reporter can't figure it out. Let's give him a hand!)

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(I sent this comment to the BBC:)

I can't understand why Quinten Somerville can't understand the Chinese concern with plastic bags. In his first report he said, "...there are bigger polluters like coal-fired power plants...". In his second report he said "Green Peace hasn't said anything about plastic bags". In both cases he answered his own quandry witin one breath: "...it takes 37 Million barrels of oil to prduce these bags..."

The concern has nothing to do with pollution, or Green Peace; it has to do with the 37 Million barrels of oil. Why waste a resource to produce something that adds no value? The bags can't be recylcled into something of value, and oil resources can be used for much more lucrative pursuits such as computer parts, consumer goods or fuel for China's rapidly growing automobile culture.