How Do I Find Digital TV Channel Numbers

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List of television stations in California

Stations for Los Angeles, California

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I can answer my own post. Here is how to get the desired channel numbers: Go to ontvtonight channel. For my area (Los Angeles) it is:

at that site you can click on your area of choice.

Download the source of the html page and strip off the href html references. These are lines that look like:

From these lines you can choose those of interest to you. The hard part is then to find the regular numeric listing. I used Wikipedia to search the channel to find the "virtual" channel number. My results for Los Angeles are:

1163632539 kdoc-charge-tv 56.8 1422655662 kcbs-decades 2.2 1700273204 kttv-hdtv 11.1 1700970782 kfla-retro-television 8.3 1700988328 knla-hsn 20.1 1766235859 kcop-heroes-icons 13.4 1970652471 kdoc-comet 56.4 3666408866 kfmb-grit-tv 39.3 4145856146 kttv-fox 11.1 4662600897 kttv-light-tv 11.3 5587187248 ktla-tbd-tv 5.4 598254830 kcop-movies 13.3 69022154 kabc-hdtv 7.1 69022168 kcbs-hdtv 2.1 69022186 kttv-hdtv 11.1 69022348 knbc-hdtv 4.1 69022680 kcal-hdtv 9.1 69022684 kcop-hdtv 13.1 69022784 ktla-hdtv 5.1 69024461 pbs-socal-world 50.4 69024465 klcs-dt 58.1 69025694 live-well-network-hdtv 7.2 69026509 kabc-laff-tv 7.3 69028932 ion-life 30.3 69030564 knbc-cozi-tv 4.2 69031965 kdoc-hdtv 56.1 69033214 kvcr-hdtv 24.1 69033763 ktla-thistv 5.3 69039127 ktla-antenna-tv 5.2 69040853 kdoc-me-tv 56.3 69044470 koce-pbs-kids 50.5 69045541 kcop-buzzr 13.2 69050084 kcet-hdtv 28.1

Thanks for responding Jeff, but as I said in my original post, I need the "Channel" numbers for each station.

FYI, these are used to schedule recording of OTA programs using the PVR software I posted some time ago in alt.os.linux.slackware. That software turns a hdhomerun (under $100) device into a cable cutting video recorder.

The Wikipedia URL has the channels. However, to get the sub-channels, you have to fish them out of the "Notes" column. Unless some station gets creative, the sub-channel numbers should be the same on the RF channel and on any translator. Also, to the best of my understanding, if a station is capable of transmitting DTV using ATSC encoding, it is also capable of transmitting HDTV (usually in the form of MPEG-4 AVC. It may choose not to do so for some reason, but in theory, all DTV stations can belch HDTV.

Most metro areas in the US has some video fanatic that maintains a current and up to date directory of what the various TV stations are doing. With spectrum reallocation and incentive auctions, such a list is needed unless you want to scan for changes regularly. No clue who does that for Smog Angeles.

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FYI, your list is missing:

13.8 Light TV 28.2 KCETLink 28.3 NHK World 30.1 ION TV 32.3 MeTV 34.3 Bounce 39.1 Escape 42.10 Retro TV 46.2 GetTV 46.4 Grit 46.5 Quest 50.1 PBS SoCal 1 50.2 PBS SoCal 2 50.4 PBS SoCal World

BTW, 8.3/8.6 KFLA is MIA - just bars and tone for many months now.

There is a forum for LA DTV channels here:

You miss the point. (Insert name here) is not seeking information. It is seeking engagement and endless discussion of inconsequential trivia.

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Thanks for responding. When I posted my original cry for help I thought the numbers I was looking for were related to frequency or FCC or something like that. I have since learned that the numbers have no such meaning, they are assigned by ontvtonight.com to distinquish directory listings for the various channels. I was looking for a FREE source of schedule information for OTA channels and I needed these numbers to fetch the (daily) schedule for each desired channel. I welcome suggestions for any online source of schedule information.

For the purpose of cord-cutting it would be desirable to be able to read schedule information from the OTA signals themselves or from a dedicated OTA channel. Right now my (homemade) PVR reads the next day's schedule at 12:01 am.

Tivo has an inexpensive OTA DVR that includes a guide/scheduler but they charge a monthly fee for it's use. There might be a way to access that meta data without a DVR like Tivo's, but I think you would have to be dedicated :)

I just use titantv.com for program info and set an old school DVR to record manually.

You may want to check

for a list of stations that you should be able to get by your address.

I use for a "TV guide". No idea about available API.

A "TSID", "Transport Stream ID" is arbitrary, but it's assigned in consecutive pairs by the FCC. A "TSID" has to be unique per geographic area, e.g tuner.

The TSID is assigned to the analog channel.

If I added my own channels via a modulator, I'd have to assign a TSID that did not already exist in my general area. This gives the "set-top-box"/tuner a way to uniquely identify a channel.

So, I think the TSID along with the minor channel number identifies a unique tuner channel. Channel 3.1 in Philadelphia and Channel 6.2 in LA would definately have a different TSID and minor channel number.

If I add modulated channels to the channels seen by the TV, I need to assign a TSID that is unique so the tuner has a unique identifier for every digital channel.

The call letters to light TV is KCOP, not KTTV. Found that out real quick; especially, after watching a program on that channel a year ago.