Turn off the Progressive scan on the blu ray player. The TV is only most likely useable for Interlaced scan. On the other video out to converted HDMI device, I would suggest a good RF Modulator with HDMI input and than outputs to composite or to component video and audio outs. Of course, if you get a picture after following the first instruction, nix the RF modulator, unless you want HDMI, as the problem is basically solved.
You are answering increasingly older posts....
And dumping a lot of BS at that!
The Post is older. I saw the date. RF Modulators are not BS! Since you are recalcitrant and bellicose in your comments about me (and you ticked me off), I will spoon feed you the RF modulator information, since you want to be confrontational and a jerk! You are being verbally abusive "Freethinker" and your verbal abuse is an attempt to "cost" me since your thinking is free. I guess you have to be aware of what's free these days. Click on the link or copy and paste the link below:
Once again...I READ THE DATES! These answers are to benefit posterity and can be archived. The BS you accuse me of 'dishing out' is being stored somewhere in the Smithsonian too. BEFORE YOU RUN YOUR MOUTH (via the keyboard), YOU NEED TO REALLY THINK BEFORE you speak! I am actually here to serve people and give them viable answers, or I would not bother to waste my time. Also, the original poster had a valid question. Yet, you want to discredit me over what a modulator (RF or otherwise) or a signal convertor is... as though I know nothing at all. Please! I am not here to make the situation hotter or to cause trouble, but I will not be bullied by players like you who act like they know stuff and spend time attempting to discredit others that do know something. I think you could be more productive in spending your time on something else. Yes, there are many kinds of modulation. Would you like me to spoon feed you that information and name you several forms of modulation (also, since you judged me about not knowing about modulation and dishing out BS)?
Since you're so darn perfect, let's see you walk on water, dude; especially since you think you have the right to come off judging me. Yet, even though we're at loggerheads right now, I will still pray for you. Have a great day and God Bless You. In spite of the curtness on my part in this response, I still hope to those of you others who read this post, that you will find the straight information useful.
OK, fair enough, and sorry if I have offended you.
Let me try to move this to a more reasonable and civilized conversation:
You stated "On the other video out to converted HDMI device, I would suggest a good RF Modulator with HDMI input and than outputs to composite or to component video and audio outs."
Here there are a couple of things that are not clear to me:
1) By "On the other video out to converted HDMI device" do you mean the HDMI to composite or component video and audio converter the OP mentioned? 2) If that's the case, would you please explain how you intend to use an RF modulator (yes, I know what it is) in this case? As far as I understand, HDMI is a digital signal, so in order to convert that to an analog signal (and split it between video and audio before doing that) you have to use more than just an RF modulator: there's a lot of processing to be done. Or am I missing something? Or did you mean, once the digital to analog conversion is done, use the RF modulator "to generate a carrier signal as well as to make sure the signal has proper impedance and voltage" to then feed to the TV input?
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4:33 PM (6 minutes ago) to sci.electronics.repairI accept your apology. I apologize for my reaction too. I bristle when in a technical forum some people act like "typical" customers, although I do not mind being questioned, for I do not fear being skewered by the nasty words that follow if I am wrong, but I do like a great conversation as it relates to a field I love and enjoy very much. I especially love doing my best to serve others while having been given some ability to do good work and make a living at what I do. I am very passionate about delivering good quality service and advice that is given. I also refer to other volumes before I state the information, even though at times, I will indicate an opinion based upon my experience.
Yes, I prefer civilized conversation also and talking done with reasoning rather than insults, falsehoods, or games. Perhaps, I was not clear. Actually, you hit on a little bit of both conditions to clarify further- just in different stages. Let me further explain.
Actually, component video (and audio derived from it is one of those quasi-digital forms of media, such as S-video) is actually what I consider still analog (although a higher caliber due to the slightly higher video resolution). So, I call it high resolution analog signals. The audio is still analog. Coaxial Digital is a low functioning digital signal for audio signals. This is different from the coax that will be referred to later on in the explanation because that coax referred to is for audio and video signals with 75 ohm impedance. So the high functioning analog signal (component video, in this case) actually has to be combined and upconverted to digital from the analog input sourcing to the modulator upon input and as accurate to how the audio/video or synced, etc... (and perhaps other factors not mentioned). After the signal is amplified slightly via a signal amplifier (provided the impedance is matched) a digital carrier signal had to be introduced (this is a form of digital modulation) and this is performed following the conversion and these steps to modulate the wave digitally.
In this process, there is bound to be some loss in the conversion of the signal, which is why it is suggested that interlaced scan be played (and progressive be turned off) as most devices cannot support the refresh rate, unless you are dumping the signal into a computer monitor, which can (as TV's and computer monitors have different forms of horizontal and vertical deflection, by design). The other thing to keep in mind s that in the upconversion, due to limits on the signal compression, you can have artifacts or other video output errors, however if the signal compression achieves the under limit criteria, you'll have a relatively decent video output.
The signal in this case is converted to HDMI. From the output of the modulator/convertor, you now have a digital to digital signal transfer. The TV will follow the signal from there and process it as a digital (converted signal), although the modulator performed the step already but the electronics inside the TV are doing the processing once again (however, this time through the digital inputs- HDMI).
You can elect to go through other ways, There's analog to analog (hi level res) to low res. Examples are component video (RGB) to composite (Y) and then RCA audio to RCA audio- presumed stereo (although mono or hi-fi will work). Then there is RGB to S-Video, or you can do any of these sources and go to coax. You can also down-convert from DMI to ay of the above listed media, following the similar rules already mentioned, except there will be a digital to analog conversion, then the modulation and processing on the old school analog. In analog, depending on what you do, the signal will be combined for audio video or you can keep the signals altogether separate. It is how you treat the signals, how they come in, how they go out, what you do with them- all of these things tie in and factor in to the processing of electronics signals as previously indicated. Everything matters, even the packaging, the "folds" in the paper, compressed, or uncompressed in the new world of signal processing.
Additionally, you have to follow special rules with the internet or when transmitting any signal to the general public. We already talked about most of the rules on receiving signals. I sincerely hope this discourse clears up any confusion. The signal is still modulated and processed- depending upon what scheme and method one chooses to use. It is how you treat the signal throughout the path of travel that is going to result in what you produce in the end as your outcome.
God Bless. Have a great day.
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