Re: What's that black dust in monitors?

articles -

saw

black

Non conductive? Bullshit, considering the main ingredient is Iron oxide, the only non conductive toner is the 100% efficient transfer stuff found in some laser printers. Some copiers have a separate supply of microscopic diamond shaped iron particles known as Developer, obviously the toner in these machines contains no iron oxide but it still gets into the air.

I don't know about fancy, but "proliferant" isn't a word.

Russ.

True. Usual problem with those that attempt big words.

Hate to disillusion you Bob, but iron oxide is magnetic and non conductive. Toner has to be non conductive to be electrostatically attracted to the charged drum and then onto the paper.Canon is the main user of magnetic toner, almost everone else uses dev and toner combinations.

Easy to claim. Have fun explaining why it aint where the airflow is inside a monitor.

Bullshit it does, most obviously with the fine particulate matter that is attracted to the outer glass surface of the tube by the electrostatic effect. And with the ESD air 'purifiers'

No reason why it should change color 'when concentrated as particles' anyway.

You'd better return those 'qualifications' then.

Fraid not.

On Sat, 20 Sep 2003 12:17:31 +1000, "Rod Speed" Gave us:

if said case surface is in proximity to a strong radiating field, it is influenced and becomes an attractor for particulate, so yes... it is also a candidate for accumulation.

On Sat, 20 Sep 2003 12:17:31 +1000, "Rod Speed" Gave us:

I said:

I'm sorry if you consider those words to be "fancy", dipshit.

For the rest of us, they are quite definitive of the meaning(s) they convey.

On Sat, 20 Sep 2003 12:30:58 +1000, "Rod Speed" Gave us:

Most monitors are non forced air cooled devices. That is the topic.

Most PCs are forced air devices, and that is an entirely different subject.

Particulate carried by forced air IMPACTS on surfaces. If said surfaces have moisture, and or tars from cigarettes on them, then particulate is going to stick.

On Sat, 20 Sep 2003 12:30:58 +1000, "Rod Speed" Gave us:

You're an idiot. That has been established. Proven again here by virtue of the fact that you actually believe that a coated surface dissipates heat as fast as an uncoated surface. You are an idiot.

On Sat, 20 Sep 2003 16:46:53 +1000, "Rod Speed" Gave us:

You're an idiot.

On Sun, 21 Sep 2003 08:03:49 +1000, "Rod Speed" Gave us:

Airflow inside a monitor case is convective, dipshit. It is also electrostatically influenced. If you have ever seen an electrostatic air moving device, you would know that. Fact is, you probably missed most of what you saw because you are a retarded f*ck that only garnered bits and pieces of electronics in your "training".

You obviously have no clue how corona works, or of its effects.

Duh.

Wrong. As always. The topic is what is the black dust in monitors.

Duh.

Nope, not when they dont have that black stuff in them, but do have what gets in them from smokers which is completely different to what's being discussed in monitors.

That black stuff in monitors clearly cant be from smoking. Its a different color and stinks. The black stuff doesnt.

Irrelevant to what the black stuff in monitor is due to.

Dust ends up in PC regardless of moisture and or tars and is anything like the color of the black stuff in monitors. So it cant be just dust as some have claimed.

Even you should be able to bullshit your way out of your predicament better than that pathetic effort, child.

Never ever said anything even remotely resembling anything like that.

PCs dont generally rely on heat passive heat dissipation much, so the effect of smoke or just dust isnt what causes them to fail.

You are a f****it.

Duh, f****it.

Pigs arse it is.

Taint what moves the air in a monitor.

AND that black stuff is nothing like the dust that ALSO ends up in the monitor.

Reams of your puerile silly s*it any 3 year old could leave for dead flushed where it belongs.

I have seen the "sooty" black dust with that "TV-electrical odor" in fluorescent fixtures in a restaurant. My hypothesis is oxidized and maybe dark-dirt-coated particles of grease/vegetable-oil/etc., maybe oxidized. Maybe smoke particles of some kind, which are sometimes greasy/tarry in nature. And these sootier appearing particles seem to be attracted to TVs and some fluorescent fixtures, as opposed to other forms of dust not being so attracted to high voltage electric things. I have known black dust to accumulate on TV screen surfaces sometimes, and larger quantities of this dust when wiped with a paper towel often have the "black-dust-from-the-inside-of-a-TV" odor.

- Don Klipstein ( snipped-for-privacy@misty.com)

Have fun explaining why you dont get that on the HT lead from the FBT to the tube.

Or with Tesla coils either.

Game, set and match.

Pity that stuff isnt jet black.

Nothing to 'burn' it in a monitor.

Yes, you certainly get quite a bit of dust inside any thing that has significant aiflow thru it, whether that is fan assisted or just has convection cooling.

BUT IS ISNT JET BLACK, its just dust colored.

You only see that jet black crud in a monitor adjacent to the FBT.

Obvious lie. Harry did just that.

Pity it aint black in that situation, most obviously with what certainly ends up on the front glass surface of the tube and in those ESD air 'purifiers'

Soorree, nothing to burn it inside a monitor.

Soorree, nothing to burn it inside a monitor.

And you dont get that black soot inside an electrical heater where there is something to burn the dust.

Natural/unforced convection will also make sticky particles stick onto surfaces. Less than with forced air, but it does happen!

- Don Klipstein ( snipped-for-privacy@misty.com)