Re: pricing, cyclone or spartan

Aug 28, 2003 6 Replies



> Hi all,
>
> What is the price for a maximux of 50K system gates, IO counts is not
> an issue, with more than 100K volumn per year? We look at cyclone and
> spartan series because Xilinx and Altera claimed they are cheap.
>
> 100K is the minimum.
>
> Thanks,
> John

: I guess the smallest spartan III and cyclone devices should also come down : below 10$ but then S3-50 does not have BRAM and both Spartan and Cyclone : do require config memory to be present what may add significant amount to : the final price (both money as board estate, etc)

XC3S50 _will_ have BRAM, only the first batch didn't have.

Bye

Uwe Bonnes bon@elektron.ikp.physik.tu-darmstadt.de Institut fuer Kernphysik Schlossgartenstrasse 9 64289 Darmstadt --------- Tel. 06151 162516 -------- Fax. 06151 164321 ----------

Hi Antti,

Have you used the Actel FPGAs? Are there free tools? Can the flash also be used to store additional data? Looks like a good candidate for a soft core cpu (as for JOP :-)

Martin

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for this volume you will obviously need to contact the disti/factory but for the Cyclone the quantity 50K pricing from the disti as below. better deals may be found I suspect if the volume goes up a bit and in

2004 ...

EP1C3 $5 , EP1C4 $11 , EP1C6 $13 , EP1C12 $27 , EP1C20 $60

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The cheapest way for the configuration is using a standard flash and a small PLD (like max7032 or max7064) and you can use the rest of the flash for other data (like program for a soft core cpu).

Martin

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come down

The Xilinx Spartan-3 XC3S50, in its production form, has four 18Kbit block RAMs (BRAM), four 18x18 hardware multipliers, and two digital clock managers. For the correct specifications, see

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In volume, the XC3S50, the XC3S200, and the XC3S400 are all less than $10 in the smallest packages.

To reduce the overall "solution cost", Spartan-3 FPGAs optionally use Xilinx PlatformFlash, which does NOT add a significant amount to the final price. See

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. Alternatively, configuration data can be stored in just about any non-volatile memory available elsewhere in the system, such as ...

  • Same Flash that holds the boot code or application code for a processor or microcontroller, * Downloaded from hard disk.

--------------------------------- Steven K. Knapp Sr. Applications Manager, Xilinx Inc. General Products Division Spartan-3/II/IIE FPGAs

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