Looking for a Low Cost On Delay Timer

On a sunny day (Thu, 29 Aug 2013 10:18:17 -0700) it happened "Guv Bob" wrote in :

+12 | -----------------------------------------------------| | | | | | --- | === | / \ 1N4001 Load --- 1000uF / 16V | 1u poly --- D2 | | C2 === C1 |-------------- /// | |--- d -------------| | IRLZ34 | 4M7 | |--- s T1 [ ] R --- | | / \ D1 /// /// --- | 1N4148 ///

When power is off C1 is discharged. When power comes on the gate of MOSFET T1 is posive via C1, and C1 slowly charges via R1, R.C time, select a suitable capacitor and resistor. The gate voltage slowly drops, and then T1 stops conducting. When power goes off, then C1 is discharged again via D1.

D2 and C2 are needed to prevent transients on the drain (load line) of T1 piercing the gate electrode isolation layer.

IRLZ34 is a logic level (2 to 3 V gate on IIRC) MOSFET.

Alternative solution:

12 V light bulb -> wakes up cat -> cat drinks from cup -> cup get lighter -> balance turns -> ball rolls, hits bell -> you wake up, and swtich of the power.
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Jan Panteltje
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Try leaving out R2 & RV1* and D2*, and jumper the free end of R1 (R1-D2 junction) to pin 8.

If you can't quite get 5s with RV2 cranked up all the way, increase R1 to 10K or 20K.

*optionally; if they're already in there, don't bother taking them out.
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Spehro Pefhany

What discharges that 1000uF (and the 1uF) when the transistor isn't turned on? Or are you assuming push-pull drive on the 12V?

Maybe replace C2 with a resistor and put 1K/12V zener before the cap.

12v heater boils off water so weight on microswitch is reduced. When power is removed relay N.C. contact allows solenoid valve/flow switch to refill water container. Oh, and wire in a beeper to bother the cat.
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Spehro Pefhany

On a sunny day (Thu, 29 Aug 2013 14:26:57 -0400) it happened Spehro Pefhany wrote in :

I am assuming other loads on the 12 V supply. If it makes you happy, add a signal light bulb. :-)

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Jan Panteltje

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hamilton

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I couldn't find the spec's for the switch; do you have a link?
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John Fields

No, I found this on ebay looking for something else.

But Google found the spec for the relay:

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(unless you ment relay)

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hamilton

seconds. Then output will go back off and stay off until the input goes to zero. Then cycle starts again.

one with NC contacts. Tons of stuff $100+, but for this application, it has to be under $20.

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Thanks hamilton. There are a bunch of these from various mfr on ebay but all come from China -- 3-4 weeks.

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Guv Bob

seconds. Then output will go back off and stay off until the input goes to zero. Then cycle starts again.

one with NC contacts. Tons of stuff $100+, but for this application, it has to be under $20.

something together from components but my brain is too far behind these days. I'm going to give this a shot and hopefully I'm not picking the wrong one. It's $5 at Frys...

Welp.... as I was connecting the last component, my super strength kicked in and I broke diode D1. Even so, I connected it to 12V. The LED came on and stayed on all the time, regardless of how either VR is set. NO stays open and never switches.

So I figured what the heck.... I pulled out D2 and installed it for D1, then jumpered that loose end of R1 to pin 8. Same result, only now the LED doesn't energize.

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Rather than keep monkeying around with this one, I'll get another one at $5 and be more careful this time.... and have a handful of spare parts.

Stay tuned....

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Guv Bob

Yes, I have to think twice, do I save 1/2 the cost or do I need it now.

hamilton

PS: This is what I was looking for, when I found the Delay-Timer-Module:

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This I'll wait 2-3 weeks for.

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hamilton

Will this work?

Size R & C so that when switch closes, relay energizes after 5 seconds, and remains energized until switch is opened.

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Guv Bob

On a sunny day (Tue, 3 Sep 2013 16:01:31 -0700) it happened "Guv Bob" wrote in :

Yes, but 5 seconds needs a big C.

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Jan Panteltje

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dave

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Thanks Dave. That's exactly what I have been looking for. Problem is I can only find these or similar units in the $5-20 range from China (2-3 weeks). Omron and others available in US are $70+

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Guv Bob

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Why can't you use Jasen Betts' circuit?
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John Fields

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is I can only find these or similar units in the $5-20 range from China (2-3 weeks). Omron and others available in US are $70+

What circuit is that? I don't see it.

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Guv Bob

It was an ascii-art sketch I posted when you asked about the 555 chip

you've got most of the parts you need in that Velleman kit

in------+-------------+ | | | . . . .|. . . . | . VCC(8) . | . . +-----+-------RES(4) OUT(3)------ out _|_ | . 555 . D1 A [R1] +---TH(6) DIS(7)-- 'T` | | . . +-----+---+---TR(2) CV(5)-- | . . C1 ===== . GND(1) . | . . . .|. . . . | | ----+-------------+--- ground U1 LMC555 / 7555 etc... D1 1N914 / 1N4148 C1 10uF R1 470K

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Jasen Betts

in------+-------------+ | | | . . . .|. . . . | . VCC(8) . | . . +-----+-------RES(4) OUT(3)------ out _|_ | . 555 . D1 A [R1]

+---TH(6) DIS(7)-- 'T` | | . . +-----+---+---TR(2) CV(5)-- | . . C1 ===== . GND(1) . | . . . .|. . . . | | ----+-------------+--- ground U1 LMC555 / 7555 D1 1N914 C1 10uF R1 470K
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John Fields

"Guv Bob"

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Problem is I can only find these or similar units in the $5-20 range from China (2-3 weeks). Omron and others available in US are $70+

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Thanks, fellows. Sorry for my ignorance -- I tried viewing this in fixed pitch and still can't make out the connections. Any way to sketch it out and upload it somewhere or post it at one of the binary groups? These are active... alt.binaries.schematics.electronics,alt.binaries.schematics.electronic Bob

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Guv Bob

John mangled it when he re-posted it. the one I posted at about the same time should be readable

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Jasen Betts

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