I don't imply that IE is better then the other browsers, however every web site was tried with IE for sure. The other browsers have to be compatible with IE, and not vice versa.
Reality check :)
Tell your opinion to the bank payment systems, corporate intranet portals, IS departments, secure document access and like. Yes all of that could have been done differently, but it is what it is.
Vladimir Vassilevsky DSP and Mixed Signal Design Consultant
Switch bank.
Isn't it linuxopathia switching bank just because their web site requires IE?
VLV
What does Linux have to do with not wanting to use IE, especially not for something where security is important?
First off, anyone interested in secure access to a web site will not use IE. Any bank that requires IE for web access or uses ActiveX as part of their security, clearly does not understand secure web access. Would I want to trust my financial security to people that incompetent? No, I would not.
Secondly, if you are having trouble with IE-specific sites that you
*have* to access, then the chances are you'll come across sites that only work with specific versions of IE. There is only one practical way to have alternative versions of IE installed on the one computer - that's using Linux (and something like IEs4Linux and Wine).
Vladimir, no. If a bank is stupid or rude enough to require you to use a specific third party product this is more than reason enough to switch it. Even the stupid local bank I was naive to create an account at recently works with any of the three browsers I have tried - and their software is crappy enough to not allow me to do online what can be done if I go to their office so some clerk does it on one of their screens (e.g. wiring to an account which involves currency change). Someone must be really really unique to make me agree into being dependent on the products of MS... (so far noone has been lucky enough - but then MS really has only disadvantages to offer to my current toolchain anyway).
Didi
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That's the way MS would like to have it but it isn't the way the world runs.
And if someone has made a site IE-only either intentionally or inadvertantly, then you take your business elsewhere. I suspect most IE-only sites are that way from ignorance in that someone who doesn't know any better has made it that way, probably from using some MS "tool" that builds some idiosyncracies into it.
Exactly. I have three bank accounts with browser access and remote bill paying. None of them require IE to function. I use Firefox
2.0 without problems. Under W98.
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Try the download section.
I think that the most important features of a bank are the interest rates and the options offered; using IE is a minor inconvenience. Also, I had enough of fighting with the dolts in the corporate IS departments to understand that it is no use. They have their point about the computer management, too. So, what exactly are you trying to proove by not using IE?
I am not going to continue this religious argument; let's talk about the different matter. We are going to use MPC5565; don't need GUI and TCP/IP connectivity. Can your RTOS fit into MPC5565? Would the CodeWarrior toolchain be suitable?
Vladimir Vassilevsky DSP and Mixed Signal Design Consultant
Jump from discussing non-standards-compliant vs. standards-compliant websites to discussing IE-only vs. non-IE-only websites noted.
Oh, actually I sometimes do use it when needed. Most frequently I use opera because it works a bit faster than the rest and eats less memory, but nothing religious about this, either.
Ah, that's much more interesting indeed! It can be made for it, sure. Each task eats 4k for a system stack and another 4k for a user stack on the 603e; this can get back to 1k each as it used to be on the CPU32 where there was not much RAM. The lowest level - kernel, filesystem, (about 250 system calls there) is somehwat more than 100 kilobytes of code; another 120k if you want the windowing system, (which apparently you don't) etc. I don't know about code warrior, never used it - but actually any toolchain should be suitable. We can continue that directly, of course - my address is didi at tgi- sci.com, I'll be happy to discuss this with you.
Didi
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The question that keeps me awake at night is whether you would change banks if they had the temerity, or simple bad taste, to top-post their email replies.
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Doesn't arise. They use html for email, and so I forbid any email access to me from them. :-)
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Try the download section.
If you're a significant customer, you can probably influence the supplier to correct their Web site. Otherwise, you take your business elsewhere.
"rickman" skrev i meddelelsen news: snipped-for-privacy@b1g2000hsg.googlegroups.com...
Depends - Wine supports most of what runs on Windows XP *except* .NET .... as it happens, I (also) make money writing software that requires .NET so no, cannot switch entirely.
I actually got Vista to a useable state - meaning:
About the same speed asthe old 1.2 GHz Athlon 64 + 1 Gig RAM - But this time on a Dual core 1.8 GHz Toshiba A300 lapdog with 3 GB RAM!! The graphics driver on the Toshiba A300 is s**te - thx to Intel!
There is a lot to of things switch off but especially: The service "Superfetch" whitch sucks away all the RAM and "Readyboost" which I will never use. Since it is a lapdog one can also set the HDD to use maximum buffering because we have backup power.
On "Windows Features" I killed the following:
Remote Differential Compression*, Removable storage management, Servives for NFS, Print Services, Windows Fax & Scan, Windows Meeting Space, Windows DFS Replication Service, Indexing Service.
Anyways:
I.O.W. It's lame, more or less a WinXP ME but is sort-of-works well enough most of the time.
Well, there is a thing called Mono
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