Embedded systems publishers

On Wed, 14 Nov 2007 11:32:23 +0100, I said, "Pick a card, any card" and David Brown instead replied:

And in copying it, you are stealing a copy from the rightful owner.

-- Ray

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Ray Haddad
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Unless they are doing something you don't like why change?

They took the chance on an unknown author for your first book and certainly pushed the others. I would have thought it is time for a bit of loyalty and develop the relationship?

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Chris Hills

If you don't see the difference by now, I don't think there is any point in my repeating myself - try and find a lawyer to ask.

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David Brown

Elvis Prsesly Inc makes more money now than it did when Elvis was alive.

BTW a book on PL1 is copyrightable today.

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Chris Hills

I bet he can.... the film rights will cover it :-)

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Chris Hills

Chris,

You have combined my comments with those of Lewin's, and the implicatio is that I would not go back to Elsevier, which is not necessarily th case. However, I would think about it. I guess you have to stop an consider why you write a book- if you are writing for the prestige of i (and that is something subjective) then a prestigious publisher i probably the way to go.

If you are doing it for name recognition or money then you want someon who will push your book. Elsevier publishes many books (on embedde systems alone) a year and their resources are stretched across all o them, and I don't know how they choose to promote one book over another but they do. In addition, like all large organizations there are personne changes and the personal relationships that you build over one book are no necessarily continued into the next.

Larger publishers may also restrict your writing style or desire presentation, although my single experience with Elsevier was exactly th opposite, to their credit.

There are also other issues like the negotiation of the contract, terms o the advance, due dates etc. that can also add to the flavour of th relationship.

-Aubrey

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antedeluvian51

In message , antedeluvian51 writes

My apologies.... I misread the attributions. (I thought Lewin had done

3 books with Elsivere and was looking to move

My mistake. I was asking why Lewin wanted to change.

Good point.... I kept getting pushed to publish some of my technical papers. Money wasn't a motivation. Neither was fame for that matter. The reason I haven't is time..... :-(

Well I think we would all like our work to be taken seriously and therefore a "proper" publisher. One who has a reputation for doing good technical books. I don't think I would want a book on embbeded systems to be published by Mills and Boon or similar :-)

Yes... However publishers are there to make money so they will not do a book the don't think will sellt sell.

Yes. Generally good ones.

They tend to take a selection to most trade shows. Get reviews etc. I don't think they would push one more than another. They just seem quite good at pushing the appreciate books to the right places.

True. At one time a couple of the publishers in the UK had staff yo-yo ing and you were never sure which company you were talking to inthe end :_)

I think some are trying to build up series of books on a related theme eg Embedded with similar covers and style of presentation

I think they have a corporate style for the covers. Easier to spot them in book shops.

Agreeed

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Chris Hills

On Wed, 14 Nov 2007 12:51:14 +0100, I said, "Pick a card, any card" and David Brown instead replied:

My daughter is one. She says it's clearly theft. So do most judges including the US Supreme Court. But don't let that stand in the way of a good yarn.

-- Ray

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Ray Haddad

Cite?

Check out Dowling v. United States in which the US Supreme Court stated: "It follows that interference with copyright does not easily equate with theft, conversion, or fraud. The Copyright Act even employs a separate term of art to define one who misappropriates a copyright"

Dowling was guilty, but not of theft. Just what David Brown and others have been saying.

Regards, Steve

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steve_schefter

On Wed, 14 Nov 2007 09:43:21 -0800, I said, "Pick a card, any card" and steve snipped-for-privacy@hotmail.com instead replied:

But the equation of theft was allowed for assessing damages. Sony won their case against Natata based on theft. Each case is individually assessed. Thank goodness for that.

-- Ray

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Ray Haddad

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